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Defend Israel – join an anti-Annapolis summit rally!

November 13th, 2007  ·  81 Comments

I received the following email this week from a man whose US-based ministry has long fought to defend Israel and its biblical right to this land. He and others like him are urgently calling for all Israel-loving Bible believers to make their way to Washington, DC and Annapolis, Maryland to confront the latest satanic attempt to divide this land and thwart God’s plans.

Jerusalem is in danger. The nation of Israel is in danger. Our families and communities are in danger. There is a battle raging, a revolution formulating and it is not focused on the Jews alone. What we see happening in Israel today with the people who refer to themselves as Palestinians is merely a war by proxy aimed at controlling God’s very throne, the place where He said His name would be known FOREVER, Jerusalem, more precisely Mount Moriah – the Temple Mount.

If Islam can dominate the land of Israel and push the Jews into the Mediterranean (which to this day is the stated goal of PLO charter) there will be no stabilizing force to hold back the pan-Arab takeover of the Asian and African Continents, there will be no bridle in the mouth of the descendants of Ishmael who God Himself foretold would be a wild ass among men. Make no mistake about it, Islam is a revolution on a global scale. The Imams are teaching that their pseudo-god provided his faithful followers with an abundant supply of oil to fund the spread of Islam throughout the Earth. The oil is running out with only another twenty years left to accomplish their deed. This, to the point of total domination, where the infidel or unbeliever is only allowed to survive as a slave and is heavily taxed. This can already be seen happening in most of the Islamic countries throughout the world today.

My point is this – Right now the framework is being set for an unprecedented take over of Israel’s biblical inheritance. If Islam takes control of the land now being proposed, not only will there not be peace in the Middle East, the stage will be set for insurrection throughout the world. There is a unique opportunity to make a stand to help protect Israel from Arab aggression while never leaving American soil. We can make a difference, together, at a time when Israel is having her arm twisted by an administration desperate to create a legacy for itself at the expense of the Jewish people.

We can lift our voices in opposition at the front of the White House and at the front gate of the Annapolis Naval Academy. Permits to assemble have been secured at both venues on the dates of the conference in Annapolis. We need voices. We need faithful believers who can come together and say to the mountain of political coercion facing Israel, be removed.

A coalition of Jewish and Christian organizations is working together to rally support for Israel and defend Jerusalem from Arab aggression. The dates for the rallies are November 25 at the White House and the 26th and 27th at Annapolis.

Sincerely,
Ed Warmoth
Builders of Zion Executive Director
ed@buildersofzion.org
www.buildersofzion.org
US Phone: 407-971-7631

These guys clearly understand that this battle is a spiritual one at its root, and that action is needed. Many Christians, even ones who firmly support and love Israel, believe that since everything is ultimately in God’s hands anyway, there is no need for us to take action. This position is wrong. If anything, the Bible teaches us that God desires to accomplish His will through us. He has honored us by inviting us to partner with Him, and we should not miss that opportunity.

If you are able, make every effort to be one of those physically and publicly standing for Israel when later this month the nations of the world again come against her to try and wrest control of the most important and strategic parts of this land.

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  • 1 Matt // Nov 13, 2007 at 1:53 pm

    That was certainly an impassioned e-mail. Of course, Islam is definitely a fast growing religion with the stated goal of global conversion and domination, so anyone not wishing to become a Muslim or a dhimmini should feel passionate about this issue.

    However, I wish the author, and other Christians, would refrain from making statements like:

    “There is a unique opportunity to make a stand to help protect Israel from Arab aggression while never leaving American soil.”

    “Arab aggression” is the term I am referring to. Islamic aggression would be a much more accurate phrase. Granted, many Muslims would take offense at such language, but in doing so they would have to deny the reality that Islam, as taught in the Qu’ran and the Hadiths, explicitly teaches that it alone is the true faith, destined to take over the world by any means possible (critics should see such works as “Why I am not a Muslim” by Ibn Waraq and “Secrets of the Koran” by Don Richardson).

    However, while it is true that most Arabs are Muslims, many are not. In fact, there were Arab Christians many years before Mohammad received his first “revelation.” Furthermore, the vast majority of Muslims are not Arab at all. They come from many different linguistic and ethnic backgrounds. So, citing “Arab aggression” as the danger to Israel not only ignores the reality of hundreds of thousands of non-Arab Muslims hostile to Israel, but unjustly paints peace loving, non-Muslim Arabs as extremists and terrorists. It is akin to calling all 1930s-40s Germans “Jew haters” (when many, such as members of the “The Confessing Church”, loved and tried to save Jews), rather than accusing the rightful culprits, the Nazi party (which included many non-Germans).

    So, while understanding the threat that rising Islamic fervor in the world poses for freedom loving western nations is certainly important we must, especially as Christians, resist the temptation to adopt rhetoric that is more geared toward slandering entire racial groups than it is to solving the problem at hand.

    The problem is not the Arab people; the problem is Islam or, more accurately, the spiritual reality behind it. The answer, therefore, is spiritual as well. Islam is a stronghold that will not come down by fiery words or even military might. No, this enemy will be conquered through fervent prayer, obedience to God, and the powerful witness of the life giving, bondage breaking Gospel of Jesus Christ.

  • 2 Jacob // Nov 14, 2007 at 2:34 am

    I wont argue with the aggression of muslims, but I think in this specific conflict (Palestine/ Israel) the Jewish aggression is much higher and more violent than that of Arabs. After all the Palestinians didnt level Lebanon for no real reason or attack all their nighbors. Also please stop calling what happened in Palestine the devine right of jews.

    I got this from a book by Albert Camus called the Reble. Its not a quote because I cant remeber it exactly but it was about how .. Religion was the biggest betrayal of God since we kill, steal, oppresse and destroy in its name and then calim all that evil was done in the name of God though some twisted logic. I dont recall God ever asking for any one to do that in his name and if he would have ask that of his followers then it would have made him evil, which would negate his existance since all religion claim he is benvolent and forgiving.

  • 3 Victor Passenheim // Nov 14, 2007 at 5:19 am

    Jacob,

    Your warped sense of justice makes you a very poor judge of good and evil, especially as it pertains to any edicts by God.

    I would recommend you start off by reading the Bible. Also, I would recommend reading many other articles in the archives, beginning with the Must Reads section.

    The above 2 suggestions should begin to give a firm grip on reality.

    Matt,

    While I agree with your post (should have just said “the descendants of Ishmael”), I wouldn’t limit divine solutions to that which is brought on by spiritual warfare. In other words, God often used one or another nation throughout Scripture to bring about His judgment among men. Oftentimes, the spiritual groundwork which was to give rise to the conflict bringing about God’s judgment was not only illustrated, but explained in detail and prophesied. In this realm, there is a time for war. And that is NOT a bad thing. No amount of prayer can change that.

  • 4 Matt // Nov 14, 2007 at 8:23 am

    Jacob,

    I am affraid that you are somewhat misinformed, historically speaking. You said:

    “After all the Palestinians didnt level Lebanon for no real reason or attack all their nighbors.”

    First of all, Israel’s “leveling,” as you put, of Lebabnon was in response to repeated, murderous attacks upon its citizens by men (mainly PLO) who were being given sanctuary, as it were, in Lebanon. Furthermore, the PLO was in Lebabnon because they had been violently expelled from Jordan in an episode known as Black September. Intersetingly, a Palestinian terror group later adopted this name (they are responsible for the Olympic massacre of Israeli athelets in Munich). Did they attack Jordan, who perpatrated the bloody affair upon the Palestinians? No, they attacked Israelis. That shows you the type of thinking Israel is dealing with: “the Jews are to blame for everything.”

    Second, what “attacking their neighbors” are you refering to? 1948, when several Arab states tried to destroy Israel? Or 1973, when they tried again? Even 1967, which was a pre-emptive Israeli strike, is generally regarded by the world community (excluding, of course, the Arab States and Russia, who was behind the whole thing) to have been a legitmate Israeli resonse to Egypt’s closing their access to the Red Sea and building up its forces in the Sinai. Not to mention, even in that conflict, Syria and Jordan (read: the Palestinians) attacked Israel first).

    Look, wanting justice for the Palestinians is fine, even commendable. However, demonizing Israel is not the way to get there. You should begin by criticizing their own corrupt, anti-peace politicians. Follow that up with criticizing their own fellow Arabs in the surrounding countries who have never allowed them citizenship, refuse to help them in any way financially, unless it is to fuel terror attacks, and instead keep them poor and in “refugee camps” to use as propaganda against Israel. Criticize the UN, who has nursed them on the lie that millions of them are “refugees” who must be allowed to “return” to Haifa, when at no other time in histroy have the children and grandchildren of refugees been designated as such.

    If you took the time to notice you would see that the Arabs who live within Israel proper have more social and political freedoms, better health care, and much better education than their fellow Ararbs in the surrounding countries. I doubt Jews living in Egypt or Syria can say the same.

    Is Israel perfect? Obviously not. Is every plan and decision the government makes wise and intelligent? Hardly. But it is still the best country in that region of the world, including for Arabs to live in. Don’t believe me? Look and see how many Jerusalem Arabs, who have Blue Israeli ID cards but are not full citizens of the State, are scrambling to apply for Israli citizenship right now because they are affraid that if Olmert gives their East Jerusalem neighborhoods away they will become citizens of “Palestine” instead.

  • 5 Ryan // Nov 14, 2007 at 8:54 am

    Well said, Matt.

  • 6 Nimal // Nov 14, 2007 at 10:08 am

    In The Word of G-d, we find that whenever His people who were confronted by an insurmountable problem cried out to Him, The Lord intervened & delivered them. I am not aware of any instance when His people organized “a protest” & G-d intervened.

    I am hence prompted to urge you,
    “Yes, please do gather near the White House & Annapolis, & PRAY UNTO THE LORD – Pray for the Peace of Jerusalem!!”

  • 7 Matt // Nov 14, 2007 at 1:35 pm

    Victor,

    I feel that I should reply to your previous remark by thanking you for voicing your agreement with the bulk of my initial post, as well as addressing the point over which you seemed to differ slightly with my statements.

    In particular, I would request that you provide me with some clarification concerning your statement:

    “In other words, God often used one or another nation throughout Scripture to bring about His judgment among men.”

    Are you simply stating that in times past God has used human agencies (i.e. national militaries) to bring judgment on other nations? If so, I concur. There are numerous examples throughout the Bible.

    Or, are you stating that He is doing so now? That now is “the time for war.” If so, a war between whom?

    My point is that Christians should not mistake a military victory over Islamic militants for true success in combating Islam. “Christians” defeated Islamic armies at Tours in 732, halting their advance into Europe, and again at Vienna in 1529. There is no denying that these victories are responsible for keeping Europe free from Islamic oppression. But what was the long term (eternal) significance? Islam is larger today that it was then.

    The Apostle Paul declared that we fight not with carnal weapons, but with spiritual. This is because our real enemy is a spiritual one, not physical. Defeating jihadists today by military might may set their agenda back a few years, but it fails to do two things: 1) defeat Islam as a religious, ideological entity, and 2) win souls for the kingdom of God.

    If you, or any other Christian reading this post, are in the military and currently battling terrorism and you feel that is what God calls you to as a believer, then you get no criticism from me. I am not one to judge the master’s servants, that is for the master to do.

    But I submit this suggestion: Christianity at large has never fully committed itself to winning the souls of Muslims. The number of Christians today engaged in ministering to the 1 billion plus Muslims in the world is shamefully small. In contrast, Christian nations have a nearly 1,400 year history of fighting Islam with the sword, and we are no closer to peace than we were at the beginning. Perhaps it is time for another solution? Do not right of praying for the souls of Muslims unto you have spent your life doing it. Do not right off the personal, social changing powers of the gospel spreading in the Muslim world until you have committed to sharing it.

    The Christian Church, in my opinion, has shrunk back from embracing its Christ given command to “make disciples of all nations” by neglecting to love the Muslim world enough to witness to it. It is vanity to expect God to continue favoring us and our countries if we neglect our purpose here on earth. Perhaps the tide is changing, and we will soon see an obedient, loving church working to change the hearts and win the souls of Muslims. That will be an eternal victory.

    Peace.

  • 8 Victor Passenheim // Nov 14, 2007 at 4:58 pm

    Matt,

    In response to your question:

    “Are you simply stating that in times past God has used human agencies (i.e. national militaries) to bring judgment on other nations? “

    and

    “Or, are you stating that He is doing so now? That now is “the time for war.” If so, a war between whom?”

    To both statements, the answer is yes. Also, I would like to interject that I did not say “the time for war”, but rather that there is “a time for war”, as in Ecclesiastes. As far as whether God is doing so now, I think a convincing argument can be made that is setting up the stage for Armaggedon, and it doesn’t appear to be far off.

    Beyond that, I would never write off prayer, have never said any such thing, but would wholeheartedly concur with you that much more prayer is called for. I simply note that prayer won’t change God’s prophetic will.

    I think I should have prefaced this entire response with a much more important fact: I rarely pray (I mean truly pray) and I know that my own life would line up far better with God’s will were I to be faithful in this respect. Clearly, I can’t speak for Mr. Warmoth, even if he did quote Scripture in context – so how can you fault him, but I know my attitude probably certainly needs readjustment and you’re right about the Church in general.

  • 9 Matt // Nov 15, 2007 at 11:01 am

    Victor,

    Thanks for the reply!

    Wars are unavoidable. As you suggested, the current state of discord in the world, particularly surrounding Israel, leads many to conclude that this is the time of “wars and rumors of wars” that Jesus was speaking of as leading up to the end. My personal opinion is that such a belief is quite likely true. Obviously, prayers will not prevent that. It is, after all, a part of God’s plan.

    My point is simply that by our prayers and fervent witness we can, God willing, lower the number of those people who will be numbered among the judged in that “great and terrible day.”

    I appreciate your honesty regarding your own prayer life. I wish my own more closely mirrored that of Jesus’!

    As for Mr. Warmoth, I did not intend to “fault him,” expect with respect to the comment he made about “Arab agression.” His own efforts to reach Muslims are completely unknown to me. Perhaps he is actively engaged in such. If so, excellent.

    Bless you sir,

    And may we all more closely mirror the character and life of our LORD.

  • 10 Isaiah53 // Nov 16, 2007 at 8:58 am

    Difficult as it is, the peace lovers of the world, in effect the jewish people and all born again christians who love Israel should all try to remember that among all people there are good and bad. The battle is with ideologies. Pray for the enemy, perhaps some may be saved. Pray for the allies, God loves them. Pray for the peace of Jerusalem, it is a commandment. Pray for each other that we all may be found worthy to stand before the King of all kings on the great day that is soon coming. And remember that the things that happen from now on cannot be changed, except as our brother Matt has said; perhaps some may be saved. Above all, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, with all thy soul, with all thy might, and thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself, upon these two hang all the law and the prophets.

  • 11 Yacov // Nov 16, 2007 at 4:40 pm

    The Torah is ignored on most of these discussions- with out that we have three blind men describing an elephant .
    and with out the knowledge of the Messiah of the Torah
    [ Jeshuah ] they still end up in the ditch.
    Mat 15:12 Then the talmidim came, and said to him, “Do you know that the Perushim were offended, when they heard this saying?”
    Mat 15:13 But he answered, “Every plant which my heavenly Father didn’t plant will be uprooted.
    Mat 15:14 Leave them alone. They are blind guides of the blind. If the blind guide the blind, both will fall into a pit.”
    Mat 15:15 Kefa answered him, “Explain the parable to us.”
    Mat 15:16 So Yeshua said, “Do you also still not understand?
    Y

  • 12 Matt // Nov 16, 2007 at 9:39 pm

    Yacov,

    Could you elaborate? Exactly which discussions are “ignoring the Torah?”

    By “most of these discussions” do you mean the discussions that routinely take place between the government of the US, Israel, and the Palestinian Authority regarding the land of Israel? Such as the one scheduled to take place in the near future at Annapolis?

    Or are you referring to the discussions that are posted on this website?

    If the former, then I agree with you. Those discussions are political in nature, not theological, and rarely, if ever, take matters of the Bible into consideration.

    If the latter, then I would like you to please elaborate. Ryan, the host of this website, routinely quotes scripture during the course of his articles. The various people, who post threads on the comment section, though differing widely in their opinions, are by a majority people that believe in the pertinence of the Bible when discussing these issues.

    To be more specific, are you referring to the current article, and/or to the comments posted following it? How exactly are they “ignoring the Torah?”

    I would appreciate a clearer and more articulate explanation, if you do not mind. Simply quoting a few verses from a Gospel, and using an ancient Hindu story (your blind men and the elephant) for illustration are insufficient, at least for this particular reader, to understand your point.

    Thanks!

  • 13 julian -In Australia // Nov 17, 2007 at 10:47 am

    Wake up, wake up! Those who are drunk but not with wine, those who are asleep but not with tiredness!

    Can one not see the times we are in, and one not perceive where we are (in time), –The harvest is almost here, the seeds have already been planted (nations, cultures, sub-cultures) –The time is FULL, almost ready to harvest, the time for thrashing and getting thrashed is closed, the time for winnowing the chaff is coming too!!

    Those who are drunk, go ahead ‘win the hearts and mind of the Moslems’ go along with the madness, carry the cup, drink, and pass it along, that the ‘strong delusion’ may spread far and wide across all domains.

    Oh Master (Christ) did you not come to this earth to destroy the works of the devil and give life to those whom The Grandmaster called to you? and will you not come for the salvation of your people (Israel) to get them out of the iron furnace, riding on that white horse, crossing the seas? will you then try to ‘win the hearts and minds of the surrounding nations’ Oh Mighty Warrior?

    — I think we know that answer!!

  • 14 Matt // Nov 17, 2007 at 12:31 pm

    Julian,

    Well, your post was less than helpful. Are you suggesting that desiring to see Muslims saved is akin to spiritual drunkeness and blindness?

    It is somewhat less than loving for you, who I am assuming is already a Christian, to wish judgment upon another person (in this case billions of people) after you yourself have already recieved forgiveness.

    Do you really believe that you are more deserving of mercy than the millions of unsaved people in this world?

    Remember the story of the immoral woman washing Jesus’ feet with her hair and tears. Jesus said “she loved much because she has been forgiven much.” By contrast, the Pharisees in the story loved little, because they were forgiven little. The point of that story is that some people, in their arrogance, feel that they only need a little forgiveness, and look with disdain a scorn upon others whom they deem more sinful. They therefore lack a love for others. Your lack of love for the lost clearly shows where you fit into that story.

    God opposses the proud, but gives grace to the humble. Careful that you do not find yourself in the house of the proud when the day of the LORD, which you seem to welcome with glee, comes upon you.

    Peace.

  • 15 KarenMarie // Nov 18, 2007 at 12:40 pm

    Ryan,

    Your shared post concerning the email you received is VERY appreciated. My shared thoughts below meet the measure of the gentleman who sent it to you.

    The Annapolis Summit according to the latest reports will be held November 26-27 at the Naval Academy in Maryland. This summit having been brokered by President Bush, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, and a collection of varied nations – among them countries that have called for the destruction of Israel – is at best despicable and vain.

    Why? Because in reality there is no true peace abiding in the spirits, hearts, minds or souls of the enemies of Israel who will be sitting at the table with them at Annapolis. The only thing being served for dinner at this table – is Israel – and on an enemy’s dirty platter – AGAIN!

    Educated terrorists dressed in pricey suits are insufficient to smoke screen those who stand upon the foundation of scripture and understand the clear fulfillment of prophecy that has come to pass in our day, or, is in the process of fulfillment concerning Israel. Obviously, the newest gathering – Annapolis – brings into play yet another critical time for the nation of Israel and all the world; it too shall be affected by whatever outcome is ultimately realized whether this is understood or not.

    After waiting almost 2,000 years to return to her ancient homeland, the Jew’s have miraculously remained viable, for they were by a force greater than man’s, destined to return home. (See:http://www.cdn-friends-icej.ca/witness/restore.html) This is especially exceptional and inspiring when one more fully beholds the depth of the diabolical horrors of the more recent holocaust which claimed 6 million Jewish lives under the reign of Hitler’s death wish for them.

    Today, as since the restoration of Israel in 1948, Hitler’s spirit of death lives on in the enemies of Israel, who likewise, seek to bring her to demise by varying devices – none of which have succeeded or ever will according to the Word of the L-rd.

    It is not with slighted mention that Israel as a people and nation continue to be physically attacked by the deadly and barbaric viciousness of nations who veil their warriors under the mask of suicide bombers and a slew of terrorist militant groups who pray in the name of Allah to annihilate her. In doing this, these nations think they will one day claim for themselves – Jerusalem and all of the Holy Land. They think that from this central base of operation, they can continue to go forth into all the world and crown Islam as the global religion by which mankind is supposedly going to be finally saved from itself.

    In the world over, billions adhere to a ‘faith’ in an ever present living G-d, and or, Messiah. Yet for so many in the household of faith, a deep unawareness veils their understanding of this CRUCIAL and VITAL fact – Israel according to the Word Of The L-rd has been restored by His Hand and according to His Divine Decision. The L-rd declares soundly – Israel shall never be destroyed again for He has planted her in the land with His ‘whole heart and His whole soul.’ (Jeremiah 32:41) (See:http://www.cdn-friends-icej.ca/witness/restore.html

    I ask, what kind of G-d would we have if He were to plant Israel with all of His heart and soul after a 2,000 year dispersion only to the end of allowing her to be uprooted and destroyed again?

    For those who do not favor reading scripture at this time, history is replete with it’s recording of that which Israel has faced as a nation and people leading up to her restoration and since then. It must be asked, what people in this historical light, has risen again after having been destroyed as a nation? None.

    Nothing that happens at the Annapolis Summit as formed under the auspices of the United States or any other nation, will be able to truly change that which the L-rd G-d decreed for Israel. It is time that the world at large and particularly those of the household of faith who are yet unaware, wake up and bring into the fore-front of their spirit, heart, mind and soul, the Ever Present Truth and Reality as Mandated for Israel by a very Living G-d.

    This G-d, the LIVING G-D of Israel and all the earth, is NOT but a mere distant mirage of non-existence. He does not watch upon the affairs of men from a dis-interested distance. He is as creator of heaven and earth, the One True Final Authority by which Israel shall CONTINUE eternally with Jerusalem as her capital.

    While man is granted free will, and in that, the power to choose as he or she will, it is abiding wisdom in any individual to come to realize that in learning of, and choosing to fully support the L-rd’s Will for Israel, free choice meets its peaceful match and place of true rest. Any choice to the contrary of G-ds Will, is guaranteed to only continue to add to the global pot of division and strife that spills over; sooner or later it always creates a myriad of carnage for Israel.

    But, as evidenced by 9/11 and various other acts of devious atrocity through-out the world – as brought on by the hands of terrorists – this carnage will surely go forth moreso unto other nations of the world. The cup of trembling as spoken of by the prophet Isaiah has passed from Israel and will meet the hands of other nations which afflict her.

    ‘Thus saith thy Lord the LORD, and thy God that pleadeth the cause of his people, Behold, I have taken out of thine hand the cup of trembling, even the dregs of the cup of my fury; thou shalt no more drink it again: But I will put it into the hand of them that afflict thee; which have said to thy soul, Bow down, that we may go over: and thou hast laid thy body as the ground, and as the street, to them that went over. (Isaiah 51:22-23)

    -KarenMarie…

  • 16 Jeannette // Nov 18, 2007 at 9:02 pm

    Who can know the mind of God? His ways are far above our ways and His thoughts are far above our thoughts. I can only continue to praise and give Him glory as this old world rushes to it’s final conclusion. I say with Peter: “To Him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen. I Peter 5:11.

  • 17 Jacob // Nov 18, 2007 at 11:27 pm

    Matt,

    You are trying to defend Israels destruction of Lebanon by citing all these crimes commited by Arabs against it, I dont like to compare body counts but I guarantee you more innocent civilians have been killed by Israels than anyof its Neighbors. 500 Lebanese civilians dies last summer, More than 3000 Palestinians have dies since 2000, including men women and children, tens of thousands of Palstinians are kidnaped and held in prison with out a fair trail for years. Syria was bombed a few months back for no official reason (thats by the way is an act of war). Only cause you dont see the houses leveld in Gaza to build that wall and the people dying every day on CNN doesnt mean its not happening. Arafat was bad but he was never found guilty of a massacre as Sharon was.

    Arabs in Israel live alright because they are Israeli citizens and all Isreali citizens enjoy the protection and financial backing of the US and certain European contributors. Jews live in Peace in several Arab countries, Morocco, Tunis, and even in Iran. The problem as they see it is not jews but rather zionists.

    I agree Palestinian goverments are corrupt and need to be held to task for their short comings, but then again how can they carry out their duties when they have no electricity or running water, can’t conduct trade, cant pay their employees, and had all their institutions and police stations bombed during the anti fada in 2000. Suffering and injustice is a way of life in Palestine, as you know desperation leads to violence and extremism. They are the ones always demonized but they are being oppressed and humiliated while the international comunities attempst to stem this injustice is constantly stoped byt he USA.

    I am not defending the horrible violence on either side but remeber Israel is not a victim here as you mentioned Israelis have rights, jobs and freedoms the palestinians can only dream of due to the occupation. I am not demonizing israel but just reminding you that if you start designation bad guys and God’s guys you will never do anything but continue to fight. Some how all these things need to be surpasse this situation where every one points fingers and compares who is suffering more and just solve the issues.

    Regarding wars and violence against Islam or Christians or Jews being inevitable, I think your right they are but for only one reason..All religions deal with absolutes and leave no room for compromise. Thats why I said that Religion is the biggest betrayal of God because its a man made phenomenon which ussually breaks all 10 comandments while saying that its rightious ends will justify its sinful means. I dont know anywhere in the Torah or Bible where God asked any one to commit murder yet thats what every religion does every day. Though out history more people have died or killed for religous reason than any other. That is why I reject religion as a crime against humanity and God himself.

  • 18 Jacob // Nov 18, 2007 at 11:34 pm

    One more thing… How many of you in here actually want to see peace between Israel and Palestine?

  • 19 Al // Nov 19, 2007 at 2:45 am

    Jacob,

    In order for you to come to such a conclusion about Israel, you would have to ignore a huge amount of history. For example, Israel attacking Syria recently was due to their building of a nuclear reactor.
    This was collaborated by American intelligence and was all over the news media worldwide. Israel simply cannot allow any of her neighbors to possess nuclear weapons. It would be only a matter of time before they’d actually use them which would be catastrophic for such a tiny nation as Israel.

    Israel has never threatened to wipe another people off the face of the earth. Her enemies on the other hand have done so repeatedly since Israel became a nation in 1948. If she is guilty of anything is being too lenient on her enemies in lieu of this.

    You only approach this from a strictly political consideration. As most people that write to this website will tell you, there is also a spiritual consideration: that the God Who created the universe made a covenant with forefathers of Israel. This covenant supersedes any opinion you or any other person may have regarding the outcome of Middle East affairs. This covenant not affects Israel but the entire world. Anyone that attempts to interfere with this covenant will be on the receiving end of God’s wrath. This may seem harsh to you, but God’s plan to restore Israel back in the land promised to the biblical patriarchs is actually God’s mercy to both Israel and the nations. Out of Israel would come the One Who would reconcile us back to God if we agree to truly follow Him. Afterwards this same Yeshua (Jesus) would return to the earth one day to rule from Jerusalem. When this happens, then the entire world will finally experience true peace and an end to war.

    This is God’s way. He will accomplish it with or without our help. Let’s just make sure we are on His side. Those that are not will ultimately oppose Yeshua up until Armageddon. At that battle, the time for opinions will be over. Yeshua will be victorious and He will judge the nations, esp. over how they treat His brothers, the Jewish people. He will judge those who dare to divide His land against His will as revealed by the scriptures.

    My advice to you as Victor mentioned earlier is read the Bible. Don’t be one of those that are counted with the goats(Matthew 25:31-46).

    -Al

  • 20 Matt // Nov 19, 2007 at 8:22 am

    Jacob,

    I appreciate your vigorous response! You say “I do not like to compare body counts.” That is a good thing, because if you did, you would quickly realize that far more Palestinian civilians have been killed by their fellow Arabs (Jordan-Black September, Lebanon-they are currently killing scores of them in the northern refugee camp) than ever have been by Israel.

    If you read some past articles on this website you will see that I have often been highly critical of some of Israel’s policies. Where poilitical matters are concernced I never give anyone a carte blanche because they are “God’s people.”

    However, I must continue to assert that you are drawing you wrong conclusions based on false premises. There are, in fact, too many in your post to respond to, but I’ll give a few:

    1) “Jews live in Peace in several Arab countries, Morocco, Tunis, and even in Iran. The problem as they see it is not jews but rather zionists.” – Is that so? Do you know any of them? 850,000 Jews were expelled from those same countries, with all of their property confiscated, after Israel became a state. There is no cry of “right of return” for those refugees. Furthermore, none of those countries have a free press, so how do you know “jews live in peace there?”

    2) “Israel is not a victim here as you mentioned Israelis have rights, jobs and freedoms the palestinians can only dream of due to the occupation.” – Israeli have rights, jobs, and freedoms because their govt. allows them too. Palstinians do not have them for the same reason their Arab neighbors often don’t: their govt. is despotic.

    3) “as you know desperation leads to violence and extremism.”- I am sorry, I know nothing of the sort. Osama Bin Laden is not desperate or suffering, he is a Saudi millionaire. Most of the 9-11 hijackers were college educated, middle class. Do not blame Islamic terror on poverty. Furthermore, how many Jewish suicide bombers do you recall in Europe during the Nazi occupation? Zero. They suffered perhaps more than any people in history, but they never resorted to intentially killing children in pizzerias.

    With respect sir, you are the one falling for media manipulation. How many days have you spent in Israel or the Palestinian areas? Have you ever seen the wall that Israel has built? Do you have friends in Gaza?

    Injustice must be condemned by any person claiming to be moral. All the more so by a person claiming to be religious. I attempt to do so objectively, as far as that is possible for a sinful man. But I also attempt to do so truthfully, being aware of the facts.

    One final point, you say “yet thats [murder] what every religion does every day.” Atheism has been the death of far more people in the last 100 years (Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol-Pot, etc.) than ever religion has. It is the absence of belief in a higher power that leads people to their greatest atrocities. They, in turn, are normally battled by people of faith. Get your facts in order.

  • 21 Nathan // Nov 20, 2007 at 2:14 am

    This is not about the Torah, the Bible, or the Koran. This is about two groups of people, one Jew and the other Arab.

    It cannot be disputed that in 1948 the United Nations provided the Palis and the Jews with the opportunity to establish each their own state and to live side by side, obviously one side (Palis) choose not to live up to their end of the bargain.

    This is the foundation of the problem, the Palis who totally in every way shape and form traded their peace and a chance at success instead opted out for a chance to exterminate the Jews, which they failed and now the Palis are whining babies that are solely responsible for their own situation. Don’t give me this occupation shit anymore, there is no occupation, Israel doesn’t control any lands that she did not rightfully take, i.e. the Golan Heights (rightfully taken during the ’67 war) West Bank (rightfully taken during the ’67 war), and Gaza Strip (which Israel does not occupy!!!!!!!!!!) and rightfully taken during the ’67 war. War is war, and you don’t get to complain when you lose.

    The fact that the United States and even Israel for that matter is willing to deal with a bunch of Arab rats in suits makes me sick. Israel should not attend and the United States should be ashamed of setting up this fake peace meeting. The same thing happens every time, the Palis make fake pledges then they travel back to the strip in their Lear jets and then order more attacks against Israel, and as a result Israel responds continuing the endless cycle of bullshit.

    The time is now to take action against Abbas, destroy him and Hamas while they are at their weakest! Why wait any longer? If you don’t wait then be prepared to be dictated to by the rest of the world in making peace.

    And why does the world care if Syria attends? One of the most worthless countries to ever grace the earth and we care if these people show up are not? Why don’t they continue to do what they always do, harbor terrorism, and continue to work on their secret nuclear program with North Koreans help. Rahhhhhhhhh why oh why.

    FOOL ME ONCE SHAME ON YOU, FOOL ME TWICE SHAME ON ME…Oslo happening all over again…

  • 22 Victor Passenheim // Nov 20, 2007 at 5:45 pm

    Jacob,

    First of all, is your name really Jacob, because your character does not resemble the Bible’s Jacob? I know I speak for most other members of this board when I say that we are the ones who truly wish to see peace between Israel and the Arabs. We are the believers in the Prince of Peace and know that He alone can bring about true peace, something man is so averse to.

    I post to you the “Palestinian” version of peace directly from the “Palestinian” Fatah Constitution:

    Article (22)
    Opposing any political solution offered as an alternative to demolishing the Zionist occupation in Palestine…

    Article (12)
    Complete liberation of Palestine, and eradication of Zionist economic, political, military and cultural existence

    Article (19)
    Armed struggle is a strategy and not a tactic, and the Palestinian Arab People’s armed revolution is a decisive factor in the liberation fight and in uprooting the Zionist existence, and this struggle will not cease unless the Zionist state is demolished and Palestine is completely liberated.

    Article (17)
    Armed public revolution is the inevitable method to liberating Palestine.

    Article (23)
    Maintaining relations with Arab countries… with the proviso that the armed struggle is not negatively affected.

    Article (8)
    The Israeli existence in Palestine is a Zionist invasion with a colonial expansive base, and it is a natural ally to colonialism and international imperialism.

    Article (7)
    The Zionist movement is racial, colonial and aggressive in ideology, goals, organization and method.

    Article (24)
    Maintaining relations with all liberal forces supporting our just struggle in order to resist together Zionism and imperialism.

    Article (4)
    The Palestinian struggle is part and parcel of the world-wide struggle against Zionism, colonialism and international imperialism.

    Article (25)
    Convincing concerned countries in the world to prevent Jewish immigration to Palestine as a method of solving the problem.

    How is it that you can ignore the overwhelming evidence all about you pointing to the genocidal desires of your “impoverished, oppressed Palestinians”?

    I could go on and on and on about the violent and destructive streak that runs through “Palestinian” society and how it is that they want anything BUT peace, but you would still be blind to it.

    Please, open your eyes.

  • 23 Anne // Nov 26, 2007 at 12:16 am

    I agree with…
    Israel SHOULD NOT ATTEND ANNAPOLIS and the United States should be ashamed of setting up this fake peace meeting.

  • 24 Marsha Carol Watson // Nov 26, 2007 at 9:45 pm

    Many are praying and fasting….We must believe that our God, the Most High God, will not allow Olmert or anyone else to be a part of “The Final Solution” that Adolph Hilter started in the 1930′s.

    Our God WILL PREVAIL….”Little Israel, you are GREATEST in the eyes of the LORD….You will not be defeated…..what the evil one orchestrates to destroy you will be turned around for the world to see and know that Your God Never slumbers nor sleeps. “

    Israel, Beloved of God.

    Thank You, Heavenly Father, for sending a miracle for the Nation of Israel and Your Chosen Ones. I give you Praise and Honor. I Glorify YOUR HOLY NAME….You are WORTHY to be Praised.

    Father, many are lacking in faith….but I remember that YOU declared that if we have faith as a grain of a mustard seed…we can speak to the mountain and it will be cast into the sea.

    Heavenly Father, we are speaking to the mountain NOW. In the name of Jesus Christ, Your only begotten Son. amen and amen

  • 25 Nathan // Nov 27, 2007 at 3:05 am

    Nobody in the USA is reporting on it at all. No stories about the days developments. If I missed something somebody let me know what network as talking aobut.

  • 26 Charles // Nov 27, 2007 at 3:55 am

    Actually Nathan ,I don’t want to see Bush making America look like a bigger bunch of fools that he already has . Maybe he didn’t understand that the Antichrist will provide that false peace or maybe he wants to try to show the Antichrist whose smarter like he tried with his daddy .
    I do believe that America will pay for his folly and eventual betrayal of Israel .

  • 27 David in Oregon // Nov 27, 2007 at 4:00 am

    Nathan: Nothing official is to happen until tomorrow. It is still the 26th in America. You must be in Israel.

    KarenMarie: I agree with all you say except I do wonder about how secularism and wickedness in the State of Israel will effect the timing of the completion of all of this. You say Israel will never be removed or Yerushlayim will never be divided, but Torah does not put a limit on the number of times Israel will be punished over Torah violation. I sincerely hope you are right and I do daily pray for the Shalom of Yerushlayim and the salvation of all Israel, all the sons of Jacob, but Israel must return to Torah. There must be t’shuvah, then they will see Moshiach Yeshua. The Father doesn’t bless and support sin. While marching in the streets by gays and all the ungodliness equal to that of America is taking place, I am deeply concerned about what must be done by Father to turn their hearts. I don’t believe they will ever again be driven completely from the Land, because it appears things are winding down to the return of Moshiach Yeshua, but they could be in for some chastisment.

  • 28 Nathan // Nov 30, 2007 at 1:58 am

    Ok if everybody thinks this meeting is such a bad idea please tell me what exactly Israel should do with the Palis? Please give me specific ideas as to how Israel will rid itself of these pests other than peace. I don’t want peace with these bastards but the world must be realistic, what other options other than war exist? I am not trying to cause problems I just want to know what all of you think about it.

    And Charles — If anybody is the anti-christ look at Faisl that worthless oil veined bastard.

  • 29 David in Oregon // Dec 2, 2007 at 4:41 am

    Nathan:
    What is Israel to do? Turn to Torah! Accept Yeshua as their Moshiach! Defend their State! How specific should one be. What if it were America? Should we give our enemies a State right in the middle of our Country? Invite them to set up their missle launchers on our borders? How specific do you want it Nathan?
    Israel should elect a government that protects Israel! A little history study will show you that the Palistenians are only pawns in the hands of the enemy nations surronding Israel. There has never been a Palestinian State or a Palistianian people. It is an illusion. Jordan is their State. The Arab Nations are responsible for their welfare. Not Israel. The Palistianian problem is a lie.
    How will Israel rid herself of these pests? Your guess is as good as mine. But dividing God’s land and His Holy City Jerusalem is not the answer.

  • 30 Al // Dec 2, 2007 at 11:57 pm

    David in OR,

    I think something bears mentioning and cannot be emphasized enough.

    Israel’s problems will never go away until a true God appointed government with His King is in place in Jerusalem. God’s plan for Israel is not a prime minister or the Knesset. His plan is a descendant of King David to sit on the throne. This plan culminates with David’s Greater Son, the Messiah. This Messiah is Yeshua of Nazareth. The church needs to proclaim this to Israel and to the world. This is what we should be praying for Israel.

    In the end, nothing else will matter. The current Israeli gov’t will fail.
    But God will install His King one day. May it happen, yea swiftly and soon and all God’s people say, amen!!

  • 31 Charles // Dec 3, 2007 at 4:25 am

    Nathan ,
    I do believe that God is in control of all facets of the fulfillment of His will . If Bush was chosen by God to swing his authority in this matter to bring the world to the precipice of destruction so be it . He appointed Judas Iscariot to a similar duty . No one liked what he did , but it had to happen . Bush has stubbornly proceeded on this moronic detail to destroy Israel . I believe that I said he is trying to be the Antichrist .
    Nathan the Bush plan or any other plan will never work . With all of the reactions of the Pal’s , Hamas, Iran and the major exporter of terror Saudi Arabia who actually presented this plan to Bush to push there can not be peace . The Saudi said he would not ever recognize Israel and the Road Map was his plan . What do you have to say about that?

  • 32 Nerah // Dec 3, 2007 at 10:11 am

    Matt,
    perhaps you would be interested in this organization? they minister to share the truth, gospel with muslims. I agree the greatest weapon we have against islam is prayer and sharing the truth! It seems when muslims do become believers they are on fire…or do great things…standing through great persecution. Look at Walid Shoebat for instance.
    http://www.truthformuslims.com/

    I will say though I am a supporter of war, God called for war throughout the Bible…do I believe this is His desire…Of Course Not. however we humans do truly have putrid minds and thus he must take out evil…He uses man to do this. Even though we pray and share, there are still those whom satan has such a hold on that they will not turn and thus America and Israel must protect themselves! The muslim religion is about violence and hatred , as you know,( I believe). I believe and have been told by soldiers fighting this battle first hand that many muslims are more than obsessed …but posessed. Would that we could pray them all deliverance through Yeshua! and ALL the world would go and rule and reign with Him!
    Blessings
    one believer who
    refuses to stand
    with any who
    divide God’s land!
    let’s make it billions

  • 33 David in Oregon // Dec 3, 2007 at 6:42 pm

    Al:
    I couldn’t agree with you more! That is exactly what I was saying in the first sentence of my post. When they turn to Yeshua as their Moshiach the government you speak of will be in place. By returning to the Almighty, blessed be He, they will be in the spiritual condition for His return. Do I think they should elect a God fearing PM who will stand up for them? Yes, of course I do. Do you think that they should just continue with this secular, worldly, American type government? I don’t think so. Until Yeshua returns, they must govern themselves according to His Word. God will continue to work His Will through man until the Messianic Kingdom is in place. The very existence of the State of Israel is His miracle in our time. The military victories they have up until now experienced are His doings, but they continue as they have for thousands of years to turn to Him only in time of great need and to turn away from Him in victory and to proudly say, “by our own might we have done this.” Well, until they put Him first and give Him the glory and turn to their Messiah Yeshua, the Kingdom of which we await will not come. They will continue to experience hatred from all the nations, including America. The nations will try and destroy her but they will be defeated by the power of God and that is ultimately what will turn their hearts to Him! Blessed be the Name of Yeshua HaMoshiach! Jesus Christ our Lord!

  • 34 Jacob // Dec 3, 2007 at 10:17 pm

    Victor,

    My real name is Jacob, I do have family in Bethlehem and they christians. I agree that all those articles are negative, I dont agree with them and im sure most rational poeple dont. That is outdated by the way since Fatah has since accepted the existance of Israel, I wish Israel would do the same for Palestine.

    Why is it that so many people keep citing the murderous intentions of Hamas while turning a blind eye to the murderous actions of the IDF. Why is a bomb delivered in a suicide belt an act of terrorism while a bomb delivered but an F16 a military operation.

    Matt, you say Palestinians dont enjoy wealth and prosperity because their government wont take the steps that lead to progress, do you fogrt that they are under occupation and basically under marshall law 24/7.

    I cant understand how people keep considering the oppressed as the villain. I know there are villains in Palestine, but have you noticed that the longer the oppression continues the more radical Palestinians seem to turn? Dont you see a coorelation? What other step should an oppressed person take when he has no voice or representaion, no hope for justice? Any human under the same conditions whould behave the same way.

    I would say that the jews in WW2 didnt act in a such a way because the situation was totally different.They were massacred and not just kept in perpetual imprisonment. but if they could have they would have and I would have no second thought in saying that they were right in rising up and defending their basic human rights. Now the tables have turned and I dont have any reservations in saying the same thing about the Palestinians.

    I cant understand how a people who suffered so many injustices though out history can turn around and take up the role of the unjust opressor with out winking an eye. I dont think any one here would argue that the occupation is illegal unjust or inhumane.

    Those of you who claim that God has spoken and no one can challenge his view are some what ridiculous. How can you tell a muslim or a hindu that you can break international law because your holy book says so. People always use claims of muslim extremist that they want to conver t the whole world to Islam as evidence of how radical, crazy and dangerous they are, what would you say jews are doing by imposing the word of the Torah on people who dont belive in it?

    By the way no matter how many people have dies by Athiest political leader in the last century it doesnt begine to compare with the number of people killed though out history in the name of God.

  • 35 Matt // Dec 4, 2007 at 8:49 am

    Jacob,

    You say…”Matt, you say Palestinians dont enjoy wealth and prosperity because their government wont take the steps that lead to progress, do you fogrt that they are under occupation and basically under marshall law 24/7.”

    Do you forget that Palestinian Arabs receive more money thru foreign aid than any people group on the planet? The people themselves often get little of it because of corrupt leadership.

    You say…”I know there are villains in Palestine, but have you noticed that the longer the oppression continues the more radical Palestinians seem to turn?”

    I think you are wrong. Maybe the type of violence has escalated, but that is just as likely a result of increased access to weapons. Hajj Amin Al-Husseini, the spiritual and political leader of the Palestinian Arabs, was a Nazi sympathizer who met personally with Hitler on more than one occasion. He participated in the Nazi military actions in the Balkans. He publically stated his intention to do to the Jews in Israel and throughout the Middle East what Hitler was doing to them in Europe. All of this hatred and violence against Jews occured decades before any “occupation.”

    The fact is that Israel possesses the West Bank because it faught a defensive war against Jordan (with a primarily Palestinian Arab population) and won. The heights of the West Bank make it a perfect staging ground for military attacks againts Israel, as was the case in 1948 and 1967. You speak of the injustice Israel has visited upon Palestinian Arabs since winning those wars, and yet you forget the cold hard fact that had the Arabs won either war there would no longer be any Jews alive in Israel. Al-Husseini wanted to exterminate them in concentration camps, or, at the very least, to “drive them into the sea.” Yet you would have Israel give up this strategic defensive position which, though perhaps being a claimed reason for terrorism, has at least kept Israel’s neighbors from attacking her for the last 40 years.

    It is true that the state of limbo many Palestinians find themselves in is unfortunate. This could be solved by Jordan, Egypt, and Syria granting them citizenship with full rights in their countries. They could even (if they forsook terrorism) continue to live in the West Bank (as legal aliens living inside Israel) or be resettled into one the surrounding countries if they chose. After all, 850,000 Jews were expelled from various Arab countries after 1948, and they have all found homes and identity in other countries, mostly Israel. This without any compensation from the governments that stole their homes and forced them out.

    Perhaps it is time for Palestinian Arabs to realise that after 60 years, three major wars and countless acts of terrorism they have lost what claim to the land they may have once had.

    As one with family in Bethlehem you should be aware of the fact that a Muslim Palestinian state is the worse thing you could wish for your people. Ask Rami Ayyad’s family.

  • 36 Matt // Dec 4, 2007 at 9:15 am

    Jacob,

    One final thought concerning your statement:

    “By the way no matter how many people have dies by Athiest political leader in the last century it doesnt begine to compare with the number of people killed though out history in the name of God.”

    Actual numbers of deaths at any given given point in history are difficult to ascertain. Nevertheless, you remark is still made without any corraborating evidence.

    According to many professional historians, such as Paul Johnson and Niall Ferguson, to name but two, the 20th century was the bloodiest century in all of human history. Both have written books on the subject. Both attribute, in part, this reality to the decline of traditional religion and the rise of secular nationalism.

    Furthermore, Christinianity, the only religion for which I can speak as an insider, stands far and away above the others in this respect. While immoral violence has been committed by “Christians” in the past on numerous occasions it has always been in direct contradiction to the teachings of Jesus. It is abberant, and it can be argued from the Bible, quite easily, that such “Christians” were not Christians at all.

    Religions are like anything else in that they either good or bad. Islam, for example, has an utterly wretched history of violence and abuse of human rights and dignity. Contrasted with Christianity, Islam’s holy book, the Qu’ran, actually calls for such.

    This is why your longing for a Palestinian State is such a mystery to me. Such a state would be either one of two things:

    1) An Islamic state: the fact that there is no single Islamic state in the world that is a true democracy would discourage me from wanting to live in one. Do you want to see Taliban style Sharia law in Bethlehem? Look to Gaza and the rhetoric coming from the Hamas clerics there concerning Christians for insight into what such an entity would mean for your family in the West Bank.

    2) A state based on secular (Palestinian) nationalism: This is a very unlikely scenerio, since the ast majority of Palestinians are Muslim and have no intention of creating a state in which Christians would be equal to them. Nonetheless, even were it to occur it would be no gaurantee of peace. I remind you of the conclusions of historians that Nationalism is a major cause of the bloddiest century in history. How long before Palestinians craved “ending the occupation” of Tel-Aviv and Haifa? I have, after all, heard such remarks in person from various Palestinians already.

    It seems, dear sir, that you have swallowed the pill of secular humanism completely, and have embraced Palestinian Nationalism as a substitute for religion in your life.

    Let me assure you of this: people are endowed by their CREATOR with certain inalienable rights.

    I urge you to seek God, and to challenge your people to do so also. It is the greatest gift that you could give them.

  • 37 David in Oregon // Dec 5, 2007 at 2:05 am

    I want to offer an explaination of my above statement, “an American style government” before I am taken to be un-American. My meaning was, “a secular godless government” of which no one can deny that our present government in America is.
    As for being un-American, I am just that to the extent that my Kingdom, like my Masters Kingdom is not of this world. My loyalty is to His Kingdom.

  • 38 Al // Dec 16, 2007 at 3:32 am

    David in OR:

    I understand where you are coming from.

    Personally, (this is just a theory on my part) Israel’s history is going to repeat itself. When Israel first settled in the land God promised them, hey were governed by judges. Finally, they cried out to God for a king like the nations that surrounded them. So God gave them someone who looked real good on the outside, head and shoulders above the rest (Saul). He turned out to be just like the kings from the nations. He proclaimed that he knew the God of Israel, but when he was really tested, instead of relying on God he turned to the occult. He wanted to do things his way rather than God’s way. Remember how he ignored Samuel’s instructions to destroy everyone and everything they possessed. Instead he made excuses for sparing the part of the Amalekites livestock for sacrifice. This was God’s answer to Israel for requesting such a king.

    I believe one day the state of Israel will once again cry out for a king just one from the nations. They will ignore God’s appointed King who is truly from the line of David. Instead they will receive, just as Yeshua said, the one who “comes in his own name” the antimessiah.
    Like Saul he will rely on the occult for his power and inspiration. He may even claim to be the “son of David”. Interestingly enough, both Prince Charles of Wales and King Juan Carlos both claim this on their respective genealogies.

    But just as before, God is determined to install His King, just like King David. Only unlike Solomon, Yeshua will establish David’s throne forever. Nothing will prevent this from happening.

  • 39 Juan Diego // Jan 18, 2008 at 4:33 am

    Matt,

    Responding to Jacobs post you said;
    “Do you forget that Palestinian Arabs receive more money thru foreign aid than any people group on the planet? The people themselves often get little of it because of corrupt leadership.”

    However, Matt, things are not as you put them. The country, people, whatever you want to call it that has received the most outside aid since about 1950 is without a doubt Israel.

    The facts that I am about to give you come directly from the library of congress and from congressional research services for the U.S. government. Fell free to check them out yourself by going to their web site at http://www.usasearch.gov. If anyone should know how much aid the world or any particular country is receiving that should be the ones giving all that aid, don’t you think so Matt?

    A;
    CRS (congressional research service) Issue Brief for Congress
    Received through the CRS Web
    Titled;
    Israeli-United States Relations
    Updated January 10, 2005
    By: Clyde R. Mark
    Foreign Affairs, Defense, and Trade Division
    States:
    “The main vehicle for expressing support for Israel has been foreign aid; Israel currently receives about $3 billion per year in economic and military grants, refugee settlement assistance, and other aid.”
    Not mentioned here are loans which are later pardoned. It later states;
    “The United States has provided on average $3 billion in foreign aid to Israel each year since 1985. Under an Israeli-U.S. agreement, economic assistance is being phased out and military aid is being increased. H.R. 2800 and S. 1426, the FY2004 foreign operations appropriations bills will provide Israel with $2.16 billion in military aid and $480 million in economic assistance.”

    continued below:

  • 40 Juan Diego // Jan 18, 2008 at 4:35 am

    Matt;
    Another CRS report entitled;
    Israel: U.S. Foreign Assistance
    Updated June 6, 2002
    Clyde R. Mark
    Foreign Affairs, Defense, and Trade Division
    States, let me just give you the summary;
    “SUMMARY
    Israel is not economically self-sufficient, and relies on foreign assistance and borrowing to maintain its economy. Since 1985, the United States has provided $3 billion in grants annually to Israel. Since 1976, Israel has been the largest annual recipient of U.S. foreign assistance, and is the largest cumulative recipient since World War II. In addition to U.S. assistance, it is estimated that Israel receives about $1 billion annually through philanthropy, an equal amount through short- and long- term commercial loans, and around $1 billion in Israel Bonds proceeds.

    Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu told a joint session of Congress on July 10, 1996, that Israel would reduce its need for U.S. aid over the next four years. In January 1998, Finance Minister Neeman proposed eliminating the $1.2 billion economic aid and increasing the $1.8 billion in military aid by $60 million per year during a ten year period beginning in the year 2000. The FY1999, 2000, and 2001 appropriations bills included cuts of $120 million in economic aid and an increase of $60 million in military aid for each year.

    U.S. aid to Israel has some unique aspects, such as loans with repayment waived, or a pledge to provide Israel with economic assistance equal to the amount Israel owes the United States for previous loans. Israel also receives special benefits that may not be available to other countries, such as the use of U.S. military assistance for research and development in the United States, the use of U.S. military assistance for military purchases in Israel, or receiving all its assistance in the first 30 days of the fiscal year rather than in 3 or 4 installments as other countries do.

    In addition to the foreign assistance, the United States has provided Israel with $625 million to develop and deploy the Arrow antimissile missile (an ongoing project), $1.3 billion to develop the Lavi aircraft (cancelled), $200 million to develop the Merkava tank (operative), $130 million to develop the high energy laser anti-missile system (ongoing), and other military projects. In FY2000 the United States provided Israel an additional $1.2 billion to fund the Wye agreement.

    For FY2002, the Administration requested $720 million in economic, $2.04 billion in military, and $60 million in migration resettlement assistance.”

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  • 41 Juan Diego // Jan 22, 2008 at 5:44 am

    Matt:
    Now let’s see what Palestine gets. It must be a lot. As you said it, “Palestinian Arabs receive more money thru foreign aid than any people group on the planet”. So if Israel receives more than 3 billion a year, and we all know it has to be way more than that from the second to last paragraph in the summary above, then Palestinian Arabs must receive how much? 1 trillion, two trillion? Lets see what the U.S. government the one giving the aid has to say.
    Another CRS issue brief for congress;
    CRS Report for Congress
    Received through the CRS Web
    Order Code RS21594
    March 4, 2005
    Titled;
    United States Aid to the Palestinians
    By:Clyde Mark
    Specialist in Middle East Affairs Foreign Affairs, Defense, and Trade Division
    States:
    “United States economic assistance for the Palestinians has averaged about $85 million per year since Israel and the PLO signed the 1993 Declaration of Principles. Congress wants to ensure that U.S. assistance is used for legitimate humanitarian projects and that no U.S. aid is diverted for military or terrorist use against Israel.”
    This CRS report also states in its quick facts;
    “Quick Facts
    1.The United States has never provided aid to the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO).
    2.The United States has provided aid directly to the Palestinian Authority (PA) three times; $36 million in FY1994, $20 million in FY2003, and $20 million in FY2005.
    3.U.S. economic aid to the Palestinians has averaged about $85 million per year since 1993; there has been no military aid. (See Table 3, page 6.)
    4.The President has requested $150 million in FY2006 and an additional $200 million in FY2005 supplemental aid for the Palestinians.
    5.About 80% of U.S. aid to the Palestinians is channeled through contractors and 20% is channeled through private voluntary organizations, both groups selected and monitored by USAID.
    6.U.S. aid for the Palestinians has not been earmarked in appropriations bills since 1975.”
    The third seems shocking to me since the Palestinians get no military aid from what little they do get compared to Israel, and Israel on the other hand gets about 70% military aid in its 3 billion per year that it gets. And the prime minister wants it all in aid.The fifth quick fact is also stunning since the aid that Palestine gets seems to have so many loops to it while the aid that Israel get is given to the Israeli government to do whatever it wants with it with no U.S. interference. I wonder if any of those contractors are Israeli.
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  • 42 Al // Jan 23, 2008 at 8:07 am

    Juan Diego,

    Let me give you something to think about.

    Can you confirm what the so-called “Palestinians” have done with the funds they have received, not just from the US but from around the world? Have they used these funds to make life easier for their citizens? Have they actually built anything that can be looked at as an actual accomplishment as far as a peaceful society with a durable infrastructure?

    The answer is NO!

    Instead the lions share of their resources either goes to corrupt leaders who don’t care about the people they govern or towards building weapons to be used against Israel. If they did receive more money, it would mean that many more casualties from all of their terrorist operations that they carry out against Israeli citizens. Hasn’t Israel itself provided resources to the “Palestinians” such as electricity?

    What is your point? That Israel be treated in the same vein as the PLO??

    By the way, the NY Times reported on 12/18/2007 that these same “Palestinians” are to receive over $7.4 BILLION over the next 3 years from sources worldwide including half a billion from the US.

  • 43 Diego // Jan 24, 2008 at 3:49 am

    Al,
    Thank you for giving me something to think about. And after thinking about it I have come to the obvious conclusion.
    First, you say that the Palestinians have not done any good for their people with the aid that they have received, which does not even compare to what the Israeli have received, but I see it very obvious that it is impossible for the Palestinians to get anything done since they are being occupied by an Israeli army which is founded by the U.S.. An occupation that limits the Palestinians in every way imaginable.
    Secondly, you seem to contest to the fact that Israel gets more aid than Palestine. Does it not show very clearly in all the information that I presented that while Palestine gets millions, Israel is getting billions. And it also clearly shows that Israel is getting these billions in military aid. Sure, you can point out that Palestine is getting $7.4 billion over the next three years, but that still is less than what Israel is getting from the U.S. over the next three years and for many more years in the past and future. And like the information I presented shows, this $3 billion per year that the U.S. gives to Israel is only a part of what the U.S. is giving in aid, since other parts of what the U.S. is giving to Israel is not classified as aid, but as military development. For example, the development of the Lavi aircraft ($1.3 billion), $625 million to develop and deploy the Arrow antimissile missile, $130 million to develop the high energy laser anti-missile system, and other military projects (all found in the information that I presented).
    You point out that Israel has provided Palestinians with electricity, but isn’t that what happens when you occupy a people. You should give them the bare minimum with which to survive, something that Israel has not always done (emphasize on all the people suffering from malnutrition in Palestine). I see this comparable with inmates at prisons. Once you imprison them then it is the duty of the state, the government, which imprisoned the person to take care of them.
    You ask me what my point is. And my point is very clear, to find out through my own judgment and unbiased research which country gets the most aid in the whole world, and after some research which I have shared with all of you it is quite clear that Israel is that country.
    You should read that whole report in the New York Times(seems like you only read the headline), which clearly states from the opinion of some heads of state like the president of France and from reports from the World Bank that if Israel does not end its occupation the $7.4 billion will make no difference.
    You also talk about Palestinian terrorism on Israel (like suicide bombings in which many innocent people lose their lives). However let me point out to you some Israeli terrorism on Palestine: The demolition of whole neighborhoods and villages so that Israel can continue to construct its settlements. How would you like to

  • 44 Diego // Jan 24, 2008 at 3:51 am

    Sorry I was cut off:

    You also talk about Palestinian terrorism on Israel (like suicide bombings in which many innocent people lose their lives). However let me point out to you some Israeli terrorism on Palestine: The demolition of whole neighborhoods and villages so that Israel can continue to construct its settlements. How would you like to be kicked out of your house in the middle of the night and watch it be run over by a bulldozer? Why is it so hard for you people to try to think about what is causing these acts of terrorism?
    Finally, It is funny to see that Palestine getting $7.4 billion makes the headlines, but all the billions if not trillions that Israel has received throughout its history never makes it to the news. Shows what a Zionist controlled media we live in here in the U.S. How about that for something to think about Al?

  • 45 Al // Jan 25, 2008 at 6:26 am

    Diego,
    Rather than go down the statistical route, let’s talk turkey, OK?
    If Israel stops retaliating for every Kassam rocket that’s launched at her, her neighbors will actually come to leave in peace with Israel?
    Is that what you are saying? It is estimated that Israel possesses approx. 200 nuclear warheads in their arsenal. If Israel was the big troublemaker that you and others paint her as, then we would have seen quite a few mushroom clouds already in Syria, Iran, Lebanon, Egypt and Iraq a long time ago.
    The fact that you actually believe in an Arab people group called “Palestinians” shows nothing but ignorance of history.

    A “Palestinian” nation has already been created. It is called Jordan.
    It was originally part of the land that was partitioned before 1948. The land that was originally named Syro-Palestina by the Romans in the early part of the 2nd century AD was the land partitioned by the both the British Empire and the United Nations between 1917 and 1948. The land that the Romans renamed “Syro-Palestina” was originally the land of ISRAEL. The Romans did this to add insult to injury after they expelled the Jews from Israel after the 2nd revolt, approx 65 years after they destroyed Jerusalem and the 2nd temple.
    The word “Palestine” is the Latin reference to “Philistine” the ancient enemies of the Jews from Old Testament times.
    The prophet Daniel and Messiah Yeshua (Jesus) Himself said these things would happen. All this to say, in 1948 the land referred to around the world as “Palestine” was partitioned into 2 nations: TransJordan and Israel. No more Palestine to speak of.

    Israel was attacked by the surrounding Arab nations and miraculously survived and won. After repeated military failures by the Arab Muslim world, President Nasser of Egypt created a group in the late 1960′s known as the Palestinian Liberation Organization headed by Yasser Arafat, who by the way was born in Egypt. The same PLO that for years was considered a terrorist group by the USA and was eventually embraced under the new name “Palestinian Authority”.

    Diego, we can back and forth. But if you don’t believe what the Bible says, we are wasting each other’s time. I believe what the Bible says.
    The Bible says most of the Jewish people have rejected Yeshua as Messiah, just like Isaiah 53 predicted. It also says that despite the fact they rejected Him, their return to the land of their forefathers is a precursor to their reconciliation to Him which will precede His return to this earth. In the end, all that matters is Yeshua will return at the battle of Armageddon to put an end to all arguments about Himself, the Jewish people … and we who are gentiles. Like Israel, we have a choice. We can accept freely what He did for us sinners on the cross and be forgiven so that we can be included in His kingdom or we can join the Jew haters who will follow the antichrist and false prophet to the lake of fire.

  • 46 matt // Feb 4, 2008 at 12:37 am

    Mr. Diego,

    You completely ignore the many instances of Palestinan Arab violence against Palestinian Jews in the years prior to 1948, and decades prior to the post-67 “ocupation.” Yet this “occupation” is the is the alleged reason for the violence. Never mind the fact that Haj Amin Al-Husseini, the spiritual and political leader of Palestinian Arabs during the later years of the British Mandate, was a professed Nazi, publically approved of Hitler’s “final solution” and stated his goals of doing the same thing to Jews in the Middle East. All decades before any “occupation.”

    In my post which you incorrectly referenced I stated:

    “Do you forget that Palestinian Arabs receive more money thru foreign aid than any people group on the planet?”

    I stand by my remark. I did not say the Palestinian State received more than any other state. I said the Palestinian people. Your reference to US foreign aid to Israel confirms this, as that is money given to one State from another. Much of this money, as you pointed out, is for military purposes. You failed to mention that this money is necessary as Israel has been threatened with destruction by its Muslim neighbors since its very founding, and, as an ally of Israel, the US gives it assistance.

    The Palestinian people, on the other hand, receieve enormous amounts of financial assitance. UNWRA was set up following the war in 1948 strictly for the purpose of giving money to Palestinian Arabs (notice that no people group on the planet have had an entire division of the UN set up just for them-not the refugees in Darfur, not the Tibetans, no one except Palestinian Arabs).

    The annual budget of UNWRA, which deals only with the estimated 4 million Palestinian Arab “refugees”, is nearly 600 million dollars. The annual budget of UNHCR, which deals with world’s other 39-40 million refugees is only twice that amount. You do the math.

    I do not see very many Tibetans blowing up school children to end the Chinese occupation of their country.

    The US also gives 1.3 billion a year in military aid, and another 800 or so million anualy in economic aid, to Egypt. So what?

    Israel has used US aid to build a vibrant, democratic country, defend itself from aggressive neighbors, and resettle millions of immigrants and legitmate refugees.

    What does Egypt do with its money? Suppress human rights? What happens with the money given to the Palestinian Arabs? Terrorism?

    Palestinian Arab terrorists are simply picking up where the belligerent leaders of Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, and Iraq left off; they are trying to rid the Middle east of Jews.

    Many Muslims just cannot stand the idea of a strong Jew that can defend himself. It seems many others in this world are equally upset by the concept.

  • 47 Andrew // Mar 3, 2008 at 9:54 pm

    This could strike the match for the end of the world. It’s time to repent be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins and recieve the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in other tongues. Jesus is coming soon. (see acts 2:38)

  • 48 Andrew // Mar 3, 2008 at 9:57 pm

    I have found theses scriptural truths of the original church are practiced especially in apostolic pentecostal churches if you would like a reference to some place where God really works. This is the time to let God bring you through the Gates of salvation, right now. Jesus said the path is straight and narrow is the gate and few there be that find it. I encourage you bretheren to seek God and this salvation that is recorded in the scripture for there is no other way.

  • 49 Andrew // Mar 3, 2008 at 10:08 pm

    I say this in love and not in condemnation. Acts 2:38; John 3:5 and in other places these things are often written. Note that in all born again in the spirit recordings they spoke with other tongues as the Spirit gave the utterance. Is 28:11-12 says ” for with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people to whom he said, this is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: and yet they would not hear” Please listen and hear with your heart set on salvation. Stammering in hebrew goes back to a word that means baffoon the root word of which is to speak unintelligibly. The first rest mentioned is a rest in hebrew specifically refering to matrimony. We cannot be the bride of Christ unless he has filled us with his Spirit! Also be baptized in the name of Jesus christ for the remission of sins. God is one. Father son and holy ghost are just titles for instance the devil is the father of lies the son of perdition and was a holy spirit. The apostles under stood this because they baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins. Please hear the cry of the Christ to come to him when you are thirsty. This spake he of the Holy Spirit. You must find an honest truth practicing church in order to be a truth practing christian. Obey acts 2:38 or be cast into the lake of fire.

  • 50 Andrew // Mar 3, 2008 at 10:09 pm

    I say this in love and not in condemnation. Acts 2:38; John 3:5 and in other places these things are often written. Note that in all born again in the spirit recordings they spoke with other tongues as the Spirit gave the utterance. Is 28:11-12 says ” for with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people to whom he said, this is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: and yet they would not hear” Please listen and hear with your heart set on salvation. Stammering in hebrew goes back to a word that means baffoon the root word of which is to speak unintelligibly. The first rest mentioned is a rest in hebrew specifically refering to matrimony. We cannot be the bride of Christ unless he has filled us with his Spirit! Also be baptized in the name of Jesus christ for the remission of sins. God is one. Father son and holy ghost are just titles for instance the devil is the father of lies the son of perdition and was a holy spirit. The apostles under stood this because they baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins. Please hear the cry of the Christ to come to him when you are thirsty. This spake he of the Holy Spirit.

  • 51 Matt // Mar 3, 2008 at 10:43 pm

    Andrew,

    Dear Friend, I precieve that you are zealous for God but that you are also somewhat adrift.

    By your statements you are suggesting that people who do not “speak in tongues” cannot possibly be saved and, even worse, you are denying the triune nature of God.

    You clearly hold to a belief in modalism which, I am compelled to inform you, is a distortion of the real character and nature of God.

    Undoubtedly you are a member of a church that is part of the movement generally refered to as “Oneness Pentecostal.”

    May I suggest that you examine some of the information available from the follwing link:

    http://www.carm.org/oneness.htm

    blessings,

    Matt

  • 52 Marylin // Mar 27, 2008 at 10:42 pm

    God Bless Israel! May he bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you!

  • 53 bad72 // Sep 2, 2008 at 11:32 pm

    wow !!
    its very reasonable article.
    Good post.
    realy good post

    thank you ;)

  • 54 Jon Farrell // Nov 13, 2008 at 5:28 am

    I cannot read this article without leaving a comment, even though the event happened a year ago.

    I love my Muslim friends. I have a couple in Jordan and another from Palestine. These are good, religious people. Their life is a lot harder because of Israeli settlers who bulldoze their homes and sometimes even shoot at them while they go to school. They do not hate Jews, just as I’m sure sincere Jews do not hate them.

    While my wife and I were living in Jordan, we were frequently told by our Arab friends that they have nothing against Americans, just their politics. And whose to blame them when so much of our tax dollars go to support Israel and hardly any to Palestine. I feel awful that by paying taxes I am supporting Israel solidiers and settlers that attempt to create what they inaccurately call Zion. Zion is for the pure in heart and peacemakers. When I imagine who I will want to live with in Zion, it is the good Muslims I have been blessed to meet.

    -Jon

  • 55 Mr. Anonymous // Dec 12, 2008 at 4:43 am

    Funny. I can understand some Jews supporting Israel. But Christian fundamentalists? Give me break!

  • 56 khan patahan // Dec 31, 2008 at 9:10 pm

    grat israiel.love israiel.

  • 57 khan patahan // Dec 31, 2008 at 9:10 pm

    grat israiel.love israiel.

  • 58 Jesus // Jan 17, 2009 at 10:21 am

    I am really stunned and saddened to read this article.

    Please do not disparage the religion of Prophet Moses (Peace Be Upon Him). You folks did not follow Moses, did not believe in Jesus and tried to crucify him.

    But for your information he (Jesus) is going to come, and you shall all know then.

    Zionists are the Al-Qaida of Judaism. Totally!

  • 59 Al // Jan 17, 2009 at 4:09 pm

    “Jesus”,

    When was the last time we heard of a Zionist blowing themselves up and taking innocent unarmed civilian lives with them?
    Or the last time a Zionist flew an airplane into a building?
    Or called for the extermination of an entire ethnic group?

    If you want to blame someone for all of this violence, look at Iran and Syria who send their proxies, Hezbollah and Hamas, to do their dirty work for them. And to top it all off, the proxies hide behind women and children who can’t defend themselves. When was the last time the Israeli Defence Forces hid behind Jewish civilians? Never!
    At least they are not cowards like their enemies!

    Al

  • 60 marry // Sep 2, 2009 at 3:47 pm

    mmmm …. iread all the allmost all the comment .and i believe that most of you are jewish and thats why u r defending your country but i believe also that the media is also misses with your mind and never show you what is really happening there in palastine .if you want to settle down and have your own country you cant just attack citizen people ,women,children and unarmed men and throw them out of their homes .destroying their lifes killing families is not a way hv what you wnt you dont want to live in peace ,you want to eleminat palestinian people just like what hitler wanted to vanish you from earth .i remeber that hitler said that he wanted to kill all jewish but he left some to survive because he wanted the world to know why he wanted to eleminte them forever .what is happening in palestine is the proof why hitler hated jewish so much cuz he knew that when jewish go anywhre to settle an live they strt killing people and destroy every one stand to sop them ,you killers ,the zionisn movement is a killing machine ,in palestine there are relegious jewish people that never agree and support this movement cuz god didnt create us to kill each ,its normal to be different but not to kill each other for the differences that god create it in ourselves,

  • 61 marry // Sep 2, 2009 at 3:49 pm

    MAY GOD THE CREATOR FO UNIVERSE DESTROY ZIONISM FOR THE SAKE OF HUMANITY

    AMEN

  • 62 mary // Sep 2, 2009 at 4:04 pm

    MAY GOD THE CREATOR FO UNIVERSE DESTROY ZIONISM FOR THE SAKE OF HUMANITY

    AMEN

  • 63 Richard // Oct 10, 2009 at 12:44 am

    Truthfully, The Israel belongs to the Hebrew people of today. That is the big secret. Not the Israelis but the Israelites. Yah Bless.

  • 64 Martin // Oct 21, 2009 at 8:50 pm

    Mierda,

    I have red through all these posts. We never gonna make it, guys. We will keep killing each other right to the full extermination. How possibly can we agree on anything if the putting together the reason and the faith has no sens! Its much better shut up, have a beer togrther and just simply respect each other without stamping on each other toes.

    Peace for this planet.

  • 65 Daniel Flores // Dec 31, 2009 at 8:40 am

    Im saying why dont we share our land and be liberated… Please politician you guy have authority for the people to bare arm with each other..

  • 66 whatever // Feb 21, 2010 at 10:36 pm

    Everyone of you that support all of the murders of innocent people. Will eventually pay when the war comes back to claim you and your families on your land. Everyone that has turned a blind eye will also pay since you are as guilty as the perpetuates and you have polluted our societies with more scum like yourself. You shall be miserable for eternity, since there could be no god that will forgive your actions….

  • 67 open your eyes people... // May 21, 2010 at 2:50 am

    Zionists are not true Jews!!! They want you to believe that muslims are out to get them. The only message muslims want is PEACE!!! ALong with Jews and Chrisians!!!! Zionists are ILLUMINATI’S wanting to bring back the ANTICHRIST to rule the world… This is why they want the palestinians off that land.. They want to tear down the Al Aqsa and rebuild Solomans temple rebuilt for the anitchrist!!!There is so much out there that we don’t know.. Don’t forget muslims, jews (not zionists) and christians all believe in the same GOD. (Allah is God in arabic)

    check out on youtube. “The Arrivals” you will get so much information.. or even just look up Illuminati’s on the net.

    God is the All MIGHTY!!!!!!!!

  • 68 hammad // Nov 3, 2010 at 11:30 am

    i am an arab muslim who’ve been in church many times in africa. i do not hate jews but but their action i dont think jews are christians jews have to forgert 1947 or 1967 and understand that this world was not educated at the moment world is educated so stop accupation and settlement building as reason for jews protection and educate jews that peace is better than war, i do not think that islam is enemy to jews or christians jesus has bee called in quran 25 times and all for good means not for bad so we muslims belive in jesus too the only problem between arab and jews now is occupation but not islam with jews and or christians your motivation is keeping this world in danger remember you cannot protect yourself in the stealing land

  • 69 hammad // Nov 8, 2010 at 6:45 am

    I belive that our world have invested in terrorism by leting israel keep the stolen arab land so there was no hamas or hisbulla if there was no israel occupation this all is investment of the tree we have planted israel now the tree has grown and produce the fruits like hammas,hisbulla etc, if we want peace then we have to cut some branches from this tree and then let it grow with some one monitoring it, i mean the world power like u.s.a and european union wich protect this tree have to bring peace by ordering israel to get out of arab land or face ecconomic sunction, and not talk as its goin on for years, or otherwise lets sit and blame islam, or christians i mean religion politics wich is not good for our religions so lets join together to bring peace and not blame each other for intrest of others.

  • 70 trancinguy // Nov 21, 2010 at 3:03 pm

    Hasbara 07

  • 71 Pastor Emmanuel Williams // Jan 20, 2011 at 2:14 pm

    I am blessed to you of my desired to join the ZIONIST MOVEMENT.I am a Liberian,young pastor.I continuing to prayed for ISRAEL and the peace of the state of ISRAEL.Every peace arrangement that doesnot guarantee ISRAEL FUTURE MUST NOT BE ACCEPTED.IN LIBERIA,I AM PLANING TO ORGANIZED A GROUP FOR THE PROMOTION OF ZIONIST(ISRAEL).

  • 72 Osama Lone // Feb 8, 2011 at 9:25 pm

    I have never seen a more racist or hate filled article in my entire life. The entire content of the article defines Islam using methods that are completely out of context.
    This article refers to ‘bible lovers’. I would like to refer these ‘bible lovers’ to simple undisputed history. The first crusade sacked Jerusalem. Christians killed both Muslims and Jews alike in the name of the bible. During the Spanish inquisition the Turks invited Jews to Palestine and other Muslim states to escape Christian prosecution. That’s right, Muslims kept Jews safe from Christians. The Crusaders banished Jews from Jerusalem. Muslims had a strict rule of freedom of religion in place during their rule of the holy land. These are all undisputable historical facts. Look it up. Any website or text book will confirm it.

    Moving on, this article refers to Muslims heavily taxing ‘unbelievers’. There is a very clear and just reason for this. In Islam, Muslims are required to pay Zakat. We have to pay a certain amount every year to charity. ‘non believers’ don’t have this zakat imposed upon them. Instead, they pay tax which amounts to the same. There is no discrimination between Muslims and non muslims. For Muslims giving tax is a religious thing and is not even called ‘tax’. This remains true to this day in a large part of the Muslim Community.

  • 73 zionist // Mar 10, 2011 at 5:22 pm

    Israel is in no danger except for the danger that it deserves for its Godliness actions with purely criminal intent. This propaganda website is similar to certain propaganda from around 1933-1945. Anyhow when the US empire collapses (hopefully very soon) jewish influence will starkly diminish as wel if not completely. This is great news as terrorist actions all over the world will suddenly end. Furthermore the people of Palestine will no longer have to live in KZ like conditions being shot at every day by israeli soldiers. What is most excellent, though, is that Palestine will return as a sovereign nation as it was before ‘biblical times. We can also quote Machiavelli; ‘the minority is irrelevant’, this means on a global scale you are completely irrelevant as almost the whole world hates you due to your unlawful, murderous and even primitive (i.e. animal like) behaviour.

  • 74 IRI // Mar 25, 2011 at 12:24 am

    ISRAEL WILL BE DESTROYED AND DELETED FROM THE MAP FOR SURE.
    نابودی اسرائیل قطعیست.

  • 75 Eugene Caleb // Apr 28, 2011 at 11:27 am

    Very good blog! Do you have any suggestions for aspiring writers? I’m planning to start my own website soon but I’m a little lost on everything. Would you advise starting with a free platform like WordPress or go for a paid option? There are so many options out there that I’m completely overwhelmed .. Any suggestions? Many thanks!

  • 76 hammad // May 12, 2011 at 9:40 am

    once israel get its border as U.N resolution 1967 it has been order israel and palestine have border. wich israel and american E.U does not reccognise this means for this nations does not reccognise U.N. they are using U.N for their own intrest only when they want to kill people of other nation they will use U.N but when U.N brings sessolutions about palestine and israel then it is not reccognisid by those big nations. its wrong to say that israel will be deleted and destroyed but it should stop to be the colony of U.S.A AND E.U AND U.N so we can see the real piece in our world

  • 77 No Name // May 21, 2011 at 10:51 am

    Well, that was funny!!! Defend Israel from what? ? Muslims? Terrorists? Or from someone else? In real world need to be defended from Zionist… You people think that by controlling media and wealth of the world you are everything? NWO hahahahaha….
    You just don’t know about the supreme power!! He’s waiting… He will let you down one day…
    About your defend… well US is doing the job! Don’t worry… But keep in mind that there are some other thing that you are not aware of… I know my IP and other information will be recorded… But I know its your time so you can do almost anything… but remember Time does not remains same for a long time… It changes and it reverse the whole story! Till then take care…

  • 78 John // Jun 23, 2011 at 12:13 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K3L_soj6dk

  • 79 Death of Khaybar // Jan 14, 2012 at 8:48 am

    Watch for Black flags rising from Khorasan…..Watch for the Yellow flag rising from Lebanon….The end of Zionism.

  • 80 Death of Khaybar // Jan 14, 2012 at 8:48 am

    http://www.moqawama.org

  • 81 JH // Mar 27, 2012 at 2:25 am

    Why are most of us here alluding to war. I say only most because I do not want to affect the lives of other humans in a negative way. I do not want force my way of life upon others. If forcing you doctrine upon other humans is a way of life for you, then I pity you.

    Acceptance
    There is not one way of life; no one person; no one country; no one religion; race; set of beliefs.
    I admit that it is beyond me why people in modern society still use religion as a reason to fight. Are we so bored? Are we so blood-thirsty?

    There are a lot of wrong actions happening by whatever state, but, please keep peace as your goal!

    Before any retort accuses me of forcing my view upon people… you don’t have to accept it, but it’s my view. We are free to take responsibility for our own choices.

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