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Democracy and the division of Israel

May 9th, 2007  ·  14 Comments

With the Lebanon war behind us, and Israeli politicians trying to do anything to divert attention from the damning Winograd Commission findings, the lie that Israel must surrender its Arab-dominated biblical heartland in order to survive as both a Jewish state and a democracy is again a favorite topic of discussion.

Earlier this week, Defense Minister Amir Peretz blasted Prime Minister Ehud Olmert for failing to come up with a new diplomatic plan vis-a-vis the “Palestinians” after the Lebanon war forced him to shelve his proposed “realignment.”

Now a top Israeli political analyst says Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni is again formulating what she believes is a “realistic” vision for peace.

Livni has done this once before, parroting the popular “conventional wisdom” that Israel simply cannot hold on to Judea, Samaria and Gaza because doing so would upset the demographic balance in the Jewish state.

Ruy Diaz correctly notes over at Western Resistance that Israel needs to actually defeat its enemies before any peace plan has a chance of succeeding. You simply cannot make peace with an undefeated enemy still bent on your ultimate demise.

But even if we were at a point that peace deals could realistically be discussed, the argument that Israel can only survive as a Jewish-dominated democracy by surrendering its most strategically-valuable pieces of land is ridiculous.

First of all, Israel, displaying unbelievable foolishness, is relying on Palestinian Authority-provided statistics to determine the exact demographic balance west of the Jordan River.

Surveys guided by scientific methods rather than Islamic interests show that the PA numbers are way off, and that Jews are not in the minority west of the Jordan.

What’s more is that there are about 12 million Jews who do not yet live in Israel that any number of circumstances could cause to suddenly immigrate to the land of their forefathers. At any given time, Israel’s Jewish population could suddenly double, or even triple.

But what I really wish is that Israel’s leaders would put aside all the numbers and statistics, and display the kind of blind faith that those who participated in the rebirth of Israel had 60 years ago.

Jews were most decidedly a minority west of the Jordan River prior to Israel’s Declaration of Independence. The British and their “white papers” had made sure of that.

But that did not deter David Ben Gurion and those around him from pressing forward with the fulfillment of a 2,000-year-old dream. Back then, Israelis knew that somehow, despite being a minority in the land, they would prevail.

The same is undoubtedly true today. If Israel would only have the faith to lay claim to all of its biblical birthright, it would find the numbers miraculously working out in the Jews’ favor, just as they did 60 years ago.

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14 comments so far ↓

  • 1 Charles Wesley // May 9, 2007 at 11:24 pm

    Everybody wants to solve the complex problems and bring peace to Israel . The scriptures reveal that the Antichrist will bring a false peace to Israel during the time of the Tribulation .
    Already the leader of Hamas in Gaza has stated that he would not let the peace plan succeed . If the peace plan did work he would be out of a job as a War Lord (Terrorist). He would have to get a JOB .
    I wouldn’t give one inch of land back . The Lord Jesus Christ will protect Israel . All others will be dashed to pieces on that burdensome stone .

  • 2 Joyce // May 11, 2007 at 7:51 am

    I agree Ryan, Israel surrendering any of their land is ridiculous. That would be very detrimental to the existence of Israel. They cannot give in to their enemies. That would be like letting the fox guard the hen house and that does not make any sense. And you are also right about how Israel should display their faith. Because faith can work miracles. And I believe God will reward those with unrelenting faith.

  • 3 Nathan // May 17, 2007 at 3:09 am

    Land for death process does not work, just ask all of Hitlers neighbors. At any rate in 48′ the Arabs declared war on Israel, and they lost their state that the UN gave them. (FACT). In 67′ Israel attacked Egypt and Syria and secured Jerusalem, the Sinai, and the Golan Heights in 6 days. (FACT). In 1973 the Arabs engineered one of the greatest military plans ever, to attack on Yom Kippur. After blowing the greatest tactical advantage of the time the Arabs managed to only secure the Sinai and nothing else. Point being that Israel should not have to give anything to the pals, only a good ass kicking for all the stupid things they do ever five minutes. How long must we dance?

  • 4 Charles // May 17, 2007 at 9:56 pm

    Things have changed Nathan and the Ragheads know it . They still fear the bright lights that Israel will show them . That’s why they want their own . In a conventional battle they areas well equipped and with Russian advisers (and you know they are there ) those monkeys can really hurt Israel with their now limited weapon reserves . The prophesy of Ezekiel will be fulfilled despite our best efforts . The time to get right with Jesus is getting shorter for the Gentiles . I believe that when people finally recognise that the Bible is true after seeing the Tribulation start that God will send that strong delusion to prevent people from calling on the name of Jesus as a last resort . If you lived and gloried in unrighteousness God will insure that you reap the same .

  • 5 Lydell Henry // May 27, 2007 at 7:38 pm

    Jerusalem and other areas in Israel should be shared by both the Jews and Arabs. This is the only way to achieve peace or violence will prevail for another 50 years. Israel should not maintain control of Palestinian land. The land should be shared in peace which I believe is possible. There may be obstacles to overcome because there has been so much blood spilled, but ultimately this is the only solution. The area should not be dominated by Zionist and Jews.

  • 6 Charles // May 28, 2007 at 4:09 pm

    Has any noticed that In no part of the world does Muslims live peacefully with non Muslims or for that fact other Muslim sects .
    God has set a plan in effect from the foundation of this world ,and it is being carried out verbatim whether we like it or not . We will not turn to either side from that path . We are just able to make that one commitment that He is interested in or not . We are mere passengers on this vessel .

  • 7 Joyce // May 28, 2007 at 8:08 pm

    Lydell,
    I don’t know where do you got the idea, that it is the Palestinians land. But I can tell you, that your information is wrong. Because I know from the Source who is God Almighty, that the land was given by Him to the Jews. And we who are mere mortals need to remember that. God is the One in charge of things, and it is not our place to try to change the Will of God. We humans seem to put too much importance in ourselves, and we seem to think that we are the ones running the show. God does give us free will to make decisions good or bad, and to make our most important decision whether, or not, we accept His gift of salvation, but when it comes down to who makes the ultimate decisions, that is God’s Authority and no one else. And as far as the Jews, and the Arabs, sharing the land they have been doing that, but that is not enough for the radical Arabs they want it all, and will stop at nothing until they eradicate all the Jews from the land. Because they have no intentions of ever sharing anything with the Jews.

  • 8 K // Jul 15, 2007 at 9:05 pm

    First off, what does any of it got to do with democracy?

    Second, I hope you do realize that majority of the U.S. Jews and W. European Jews don’t consider Israel to be the land of their forefathers.

  • 9 Marsha Carol Watson // Oct 8, 2007 at 4:20 am

    Ryan, I love this article…..I know you wrote it back in May, but it is worth reading again and again….

  • 10 Marylin // Feb 5, 2008 at 7:03 am

    Israel has been a sucker of this world for far too long..

    It is time to leave political correctness where it belongs- in the dust bin.

    Israel needs to finish off the “”palestinians”" once and for all.

    International community shouldnt take precedence over Israel’s safety.

    This is the best line of reasoning:

    Israel gets “beatings” from the international community NOW.

    Israel kicks out the “palestinians”, it WILL get more beatings.

    Both sentences are reduced to the same consequences…

    The only difference now is Israel coming out a winner!!!, “beatings” are immaterial, for the same reason that they occur both when Israel is being generous as well as when Israel is being defensive. Moreover the line of reasoning follows that the more Israel continue s to give in, the international community will increase the “beatings” all the more, and to the contrary Israel would spare itself much beatings if it took bold actions , yes it would get scrutiny and the cold shoulder, but this would not last, or at least not for long, once everyone has settled down the only thing that would remain is Israel’s victory! Where is if Israel remains passive, international “beatings” will never cease to stop so long as Israel remains immobile in its reactions towards palestinians.
    The idea is quite basic, if Israel tends to its needs before others it will regain its respect from the global community, but if Israel doesnt stand up for itself the international community will keep giving it crap! There is nothing new here, neither is it a secret.
    People will respect you only as much as you respect yourself!
    If you think little of yourself, others will too. If you project strong confidence others will regard you as somebody who is not to be reckoned with. And this is no different with nations. A nation is a body of people who sets the standards for how it is going to be treated. It is a classic situation. When all is said and done nothing will be remembered except the present. The way i see it Israel has two options: Either it is going to continue on the same course looking into bogus peace negotiations which would essentially be a setback for Israel, and we’re back to square one again, and when i say square one, i mean that first square before the six day war, and Israel will continue to be ostracized by the international community, in a vulnerable position and an uncertain future it will live, OR,
    Or,,, Israel will redirect itself from its present path that is only slopping downwards… get it together, foster the Israeli soul and raise its nation’s morale. But to do that it has to act and be bold!!!

    Israel, kick some “palestinian” ass, the international community will give you beatings, regardless, so just do it, Do it!

  • 11 arabmuslim // Oct 31, 2010 at 12:56 pm

    There is no democracy in Israel as a state is illegitimate and illegal and not recognized
    Evidence of this if anyone wanted to write a comment in the Israeli websites
    Does not allow him or be there are many obstacles to prevent him from writing a comment The reasons for Arab-Israeli conflict is the occupation of Palestine in 1948.
    Palestine Arab Islamic state like the rest of the Arab and Islamic states surrounding
    Them. Means that there are Jews and Zionists in Palestine a big mistake, because this entity
    Zionist is not consistent with the surrounding area (such as language, customs, traditions and religion)
    The only solution to end the Arab-Israeli conflict is the expulsion of Jews from Palestine
    All of Palestine. The Jewish people will not rest and will not feel comfortable and stability
    But if it gets out of Palestine and the Middle East completely. If people continue to
    Jews in Palestine and the Middle East, the death and destruction will continue.
    Palestine Arab Islamic state and will remain

  • 12 arabmuslimm // Nov 8, 2010 at 7:37 pm

    There is no state called Israel.
    State of thieves called Israel a
    basis of the displacement
    and killing of Innocent nation .
    state of thieves basis
    bloodshed and war
    And the arrest of people
    for tens of years to
    prevent him from claiming
    The right to life .
    basis steal the land of the
    Palestinian people
    And then steal
    the land of the Arab-Muslim
    the entire .State of the
    thieves do not know the law …..
    Does not recognize the
    law of the United Nations,
    a state that considers itself above the
    law . the law is the siege of Gaza
    And the bloodshed and
    destruction of houses and
    killing innocent people
    and occupying the country
    This is a country named Israel thieves

  • 13 israel and democracy // Nov 9, 2010 at 2:16 am

    DEMOCRACY IN ISRAEL
    There is no democracy in Israel as a state is illegitimate and illegal and not recognized
    Evidence of this if anyone wanted to write a comment in the Israeli websites
    Does not allow him or be there are many obstacles to prevent him from writing a comment The reasons for Arab-Israeli conflict is the occupation of Palestine in 1948.
    Palestine Arab Islamic state like the rest of the Arab and Islamic states surrounding
    Them. Means that there are Jews and Zionists in Palestine a big mistake, because this entity
    Zionist is not consistent with the surrounding area (such as language, customs, traditions and religion)
    The only solution to end the Arab-Israeli conflict is the expulsion of Jews from Palestine
    All of Palestine. The Jewish people will not rest and will not feel comfortable and stability
    But if it gets out of Palestine and the Middle East completely. If people continue to
    Jews in Palestine and the Middle East, the death and destruction will continue.
    Palestine Arab Islamic state and will remain

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