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March 4th, 2007  ·  19 Comments

Extreme Israeli leftist peace activists demanded on Saturday that the government demolish the grave of a Jewish resident of Hebron who gunned down 29 “Palestinians” at the cave where Israel’s patriarchs are buried in 1994.

The call came after scuffles broke out between a group of fellow Hebron residents who had gathered in memory of the killer and police officers who were on hand to arrest anyone that displayed support for individuals or groups deemed to be “Jewish terrorists.”

Now, without getting into a debate over the actions of Baruch Goldstein, I want to point out the glaring contrasts between Israeli and “Palestinian” societies and their reaction to those in their midsts who take the lives of unarmed civilians on the other side.

When a few Jews gathered at the weekend to remember Goldstein, Israeli police showed up in force to make sure no one even whispered support for what he did.

When a “Palestinian” is killed in the process of murdering Israeli Jews, the residents of his town hold a massive street parade en route to his funeral that is usually sanctioned and protected by the Palestinian Authority police. The event is typically characterized by chants of support for the slaughter of Jews. No one is arrested for making such virulent calls.

Furthermore, despite the fact that Saturday’s memorial ceremony was so small and insignificant, it was distasteful enough for Israel’s “Peace Now” to loudly issue a pubic appeal for the destruction of Goldstein’s grave.

Now I am wondering, if the “Palestinians” are truly as interested in peace as the Israelis, where are the “Palestinian” peace activists demanding not only that their own militants cease their violent actions, but insisting on harsh official treatment of those who celebrate the murder of Israeli Jews?

It is time that we demand the world see this contrast: In one society, those deemed terrorists are vigorously persecuted, while in the other, murderers of men, women and children are gloriously celebrated.

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  • 1 MizEllie // Mar 4, 2007 at 8:14 pm

    Great post! I have often pondered this same question.

  • 2 Joyce // Mar 4, 2007 at 9:50 pm

    I agree Ryan, it is time for the disparaties of this situation to be brought to the attention of the world. And I believe, that the world should be held accountable for their reactions to the situation. Those who want to ignore it, or just sweep it under the rug, like they do with with the all the other unfairness to Israel should be condemned for such reactions. The world needs to realize, that the bias they have against Israel should not be tolerated any longer. And that the world should be able to see from this, that Israel is the one that is trying to do the right thing. And that the Palestinians have no intentions of doing what is right, and they show this by their continued demonstrations of their hatred for Israel.

  • 3 Marcel // Mar 5, 2007 at 10:52 pm

    Please don’t lose hope ,there is a Palestinian peace University being funded by the U.S.
    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3372827,00.html

  • 4 Steven // Mar 6, 2007 at 2:08 am

    There are no Palestinian peace activists. In like manner, you will not see Arab peace activists, nor will you see Persian peace activists.

    Why?

    Because Islam is inherently radical and evil. Islam is in actuality a political ideology and a form of middle eastern fascism, operating under the guise of a religion. But there is nothing “religious” or godly about it. Muhammed, like most dictators, created a political ideology uniquely appealing to his people. Since the Middle East is comprised of several traditional, “spiritual” cultures, it was perfectly logical that Muhammed’s form of government mimic the appearance of a religion.

    Because of the way in which Muhammed structured the Islamic religion, there can be no room for liberalism or moderate tendencies. The religion was, from the beginning, structured to breed hatred towards western civilization and towards Judeo-Christian cultures, as well as instill obedience to the Imams and the Caliphs.

    As long as Islam is the faith of the Palestinian and the Arab people, there will be no peace. Unfortunately, the course of history has brought us to a place where we are required to act drastically.

    While some incorrectly view the War on Terror as “a war for empire”, it is, in reality, the war for our survival. And, if we are to be victorious, and if we are to restore peace, then we have no choice but to annihilate the religion of Islam. This is not a war that we have chosen; sadly this burden has been cast upon us. But we cannot simply shed this burden, for it is our duty to fulfill.

    Islam threatens our people (the Jews and the Christians) with slavery, death, and destruction. And they expect us to quietly bow down before their oppression? Nay! We must proudly go to war for our people in defense of that which we value most.

  • 5 kahaneloyalist // Mar 6, 2007 at 6:20 am

    Rambam Hilchot Melachim
    “During a Milchemet Mitzvah you are to kill the men, the women, and the children. Those who have mercy on the enemies of the Jewish people have Jewish blood on their hands.”
    Hilchot Chovel uMazik
    “If a Jew gives Jewish property to Goyim, he is a Moser (traitor), he has no place in the world to come and it is a mitzvah to kill such a Jew.”

    Baruch Goldstein was a great hero, he followed the Torah without fear of the Goy that grips the hearts of so many Jews. There is nothing moral or Jewish about being kind to our enemies. It is a Goyish, Christian value to have mercy in war, and the Jewish people will never have peace till we rip out the poison that have warped so many Jewish minds with Goy values.

  • 6 Steven // Mar 6, 2007 at 7:40 am

    AMEN!!!!

    We must destroy all that is evil, so that good may flourish.

    Some say that G-d views all sin as being equally evil. I am not convinced that the Holy Scriptures say this. I have, through my studies, determined that there are two classifications of sins. Some sin effects only he who commits it, while other sins rob men of their lives. The sin which steals life from the innocent is, I believe, the worst of sins. Murderers, drug-dealers, child molestors, and pimps fall under this category.

    While we are all sinners, and while all sin is evil, this latter type of sin - the life-robbing sin - prohibits G-d’s people from flourishing. And we see it every day…murderers and thugs kill innocent people, only to walk away without payment for their crimes. They slit peoples’ throats, and buy their way out of punishment.

    These people - the murderers, the thugs, the terrorists - must die. This is necessary for good to flourish.

    Death to Islam!

  • 7 Jack // Mar 6, 2007 at 12:12 pm

    Islam is Satan’s new method of trying to destroy God’s people, his old method which failed was of course Hitler and his Nazi’s. All Muslims are fundamentalists and dangerous, even the quiet ones. Just think back recently when caricatures of Mohammed were published how they reacted. The so called peace loving people reacted so aggresively they took everyone by surprise.

  • 8 Mobius // Mar 6, 2007 at 7:23 pm

    There are plenty of Palestinian peace activists. They just keep getting shot by IDF soldiers. Last week the IDF shot a 12 year-old in the skull at a non-violent demonstration in Bil’in.

    As per your remarks on the glorification of martyrs, I’m assuming you’ve never been to the Jabotinsky museum in Tel Aviv where they proudly exhibit bomb making parts and scale model reproductions of Irgun terror attacks against Palestinian and British targets; activities which we commemorate with plaques all over Israel. The Jabotinsky museum also houses its own martyr memorial.

    I have photos of it all on my Flickr…

    Suffice to say, if you saw people talking about Jews the way you people talk about Muslims, you’d call the authorities. It takes two to tango kids.

  • 9 Steven // Mar 7, 2007 at 1:42 am

    Yeah, except the Jews are G-d’s annointed. We are not to curse them; we are not to harm a solitary hair upon their heads. G-d’s Word states that He (LORD G-d) will bless them that bless Israel, and He will curse them that curse Israel.

    The muslims are the bastard children of Ishmael. They are not G-d’s chosen, and they have no divine right to the promised land.

    Moreover, the Jews are not the antagonists in this conflict. The muslims are the aggressors; the attackers.

    The American and European media mock the prime characters and icons of the Jewish and Christian faiths, and this is readily accepted as the norm. The secular media regards Jews and Christians as obsolete radicals, who adhere to archaic mystical faiths and superstitions. It is commonplace for American sitcoms to mock Jesus Christ, as well as the Christian faith as a whole. Anti-Judaism is pervasive in American culture, and I find this sickening. Sophomoric liberals use the words “jew” and “jewish” as insults and curses. And why is it that society readily accepts the name of “Jesus Christ” as a curse word, but to use the name of Buddha or Mohammed as a curse word would be considered an outrage?

    When secular society mocks Judaism, the Jews do not turn out in droves and start riots, and they do not murder people. When muslims create propaganda which suggests that Jews are cannibals, there is not violent outrage which eminates from the Jewish people, though they would have every right to display such outrage. But, when a poet writes a play that suggests that Mohammed was gay, enraged muslim students nail a copy of the play to his chest by running a knife through his heart.

    No, Mobius, the Jews and Christians are not the evil ones in this clash of civilizations, as you so wrongly claim. Islam is an evil device of the Devil; it breeds hatred, murder and genocide. The Nation of Islam has very real intentions to conquer the Earth.

    The Israeli people are justly and correctly defending their destiny by waging war against the muslims. And I say that my people - the Christian people - must learn a lesson from our Jewish brothers, and vigilantly take up arms against the approaching Islamic onslaught.

  • 10 Mobius // Mar 7, 2007 at 3:25 am

    Yeah, except the Jews are G-d’s annointed.

    which jews? the ones who uphold g-d’s word? which jews are those? the secular zionists with their sex trafficking and gun running? the religious zionists with their war mongering?

    sir, g-d promises the land only to those who heed his word. let me ask you — after 2,000 years of exile and having to constantly reincarnate our ravaged tradition, leaving it so far abstracted from its source that biblical judaism itself is unimaginable: do you really think there’s anyone left who knows what “g-d’s word” is? hell, did you even read your bible? did we ever know what g-d’s word was? have we ever had the vessels to hear it? we blew it, remember? he kicked us out twice! and we’re still blowing it…

    the bible is neither a history book nor an oracle. it is allegory and extrapolation, the documentation of a people’s metaphysical exploration of the universe. it is not a land deed. it is a snapshot of an ever-present, ever-repeating reality to which we refer in order to understand our experience of reality. it’s a map — a symbolic representation of the territory we navigate in life. it is a scry by which we attempt to ascertain the meaning of our lived experience, so that we may master the art of living.

    zionism and jewish statehood are so entirely far removed and separate from torah it’s absurd to even conflate the two. zionism was a secular nationalist movement which intended to normalize the jew among the nations. as you can see, we still stick out like a sore thumb.

    We are not to curse them; we are not to harm a solitary hair upon their heads.

    “whosoever harms a single hair upon a jew’s head will answer to me personally on judgment day.” — the quran

    The muslims are the bastard children of Ishmael. They are not G-d’s chosen, and they have no divine right to the promised land.

    as the descendants of yishmael, muslims are the descendants of abraham, our father. it was to abraham whom the inheritance of israel was promised, and that includes his children, whether jewish, muslim or christian. likewise, it is said:

    “but to the sons of Abraham’s concubines, abraham gave gifts. he sent them away from isaac his son, while he yet lived, eastward, to the east country.”

    to the east is india, asia. ancient jewish knowledge is seen to have many correlations to the eastern yogic traditions — for it is an oriental religion — not western. as we continue to find “lost tribes” in asia and the indian subcontinent, is it not possible that perhaps there are many buddhists and hindus that are also children of abraham? does sifra kedoshim not teach that “we are all the descendants of adam”? are we not all trying to get back to the garden, in one way or another?

    furthermore, considering the influence the judaism has had through christianity and islam, in reshaping the paradigm through which the entire world is viewed — who on earth is not an ideological descendant of abraham?

    descent from abraham is not determined by blood — it’s determined by covenant, by community. are you israel — do you wrestle with g-d? if so, you are a member of our nation, whether as a ger (literally, a stranger) or a ger toshav (a convert).

    this land belongs to all of g-d’s children, and our temple welcomed those of all faiths to come and pray.

    Moreover, the Jews are not the antagonists in this conflict. The muslims are the aggressors; the attackers.

    yeah, yeah, yeah — we’re just the ones who bought the land out from 700,000 people and nonchalantly kicked thousands of families out of their houses. g-d forbid they should resist.

    When secular society mocks Judaism, the Jews do not turn out in droves and start riots, and they do not murder people.

    right, instead, they pressure their representatives to pass hate crimes legislation and incarcerate idiots for their thought crimes. there’s an effective strategy…

    out of curiosity, you ever seen a riot in mea shearim? this past summer, for example, an ultra-orthodox guy killed his baby by slamming it against a wall cuz he couldn’t take its non-stop crying. when he was arrested, the hareidim declared war on the police, claiming it was a zionist conspiracy to tarnish the name of g-d’s most devout holy servants, and threw rocks at the cops and burned dumpsters.

    oh and hey, how ’bout those abortion clinic bombers, huh? there are some good christians for ya, defending “god’s way” and all…

    i mean, hell, i won’t make excuses for islamic extremists, suffice to say, i’m not the one running around glorifying a man who shot up a mosque in cold blood nor engaging in the wholesale slandering of an entire people.

    there are a billion muslims in the world; you can maybe ascribe such madness to a maximum of 5% of them at best.

    i can go on and on about televangelists, homosexual homophobes, right-wing nutters, and all sorts of shameful representations of christians that you cite as disparaging to people of your faith. if it’s even just 5% of all christians who are that batsh*t crazy and are “misrepresenting” your people, why can’t you extend that same benefit of the doubt to muslims?

    that’s the true lesson of the holocaust. that casual dehumanization vis a vis blanket statements like “islam is an evil device of the devil” leads to eventual war crimes.

    i hate to break it to you, christian soldier, but we jews have infinitely more in common with islam than we have ever or will ever have with christianity. frankly, more jews were murdered by christians in the last 2000 years than ever by muslims, and christians continue to deride us by missionizing to our people and promoting trojan horses like jews for jesus.

    you — right now — believe that i’m not going to heaven because i haven’t accepted jesus as my personal lord and savior. in the last century, your co-religionists murdered millions of my people emboldened by this charge. your theology is — and has been proven to be, time and time again — inherently antisemitic. “they are a synagogue of satan!” seen any good passion plays lately? maybe have an entire protestant reformation initiated by a rabid antisemite? islam’s not my foe. compared to you folks, islam’s having a bad hair day.

    muslims are pissed at us because we’re serving as a proxy of american imperialists who bomb the sht out of their countries and steal all their oil. we arm both sides and invite them to hammer the sht out of each other while we running in with a hose and siphoning the petrol out of their gas tanks, while the radicals spread about antisemitic propaganda in order to stir incitement and mobilize public support for their self-interested (but promoted as “for the sake of islam”) coup attempts.

    the jews are just a sock puppet. we’re a strategy. a sacrificial lamb. that’s why you keep us around.

    and true believers like you? well, you’re a pawn as well. read david kuo’s book. this game is bigger than all of us and it’s got nothing to do with ideology and everything to do with greed.

    but keep on cheerleadin’ …just don’t be surprised when you don’t hear the hammer drop over all that rah rah rah noise.

  • 11 Steven // Mar 7, 2007 at 5:56 am

    Mobius, I am truly sorry for you. I am truly sorry that you do not see the truth, which is that the entire world is converging against Israel. I am truly sorry that you do not see that Islam is an evil religion which intends to destroy the world. I am truly sorry that you do not see that Catholicism is not Christianity; Catholicism is a false religion just like Islam, Hinduism, or Buddhism. I am truly sorry that you believe that the Crusaders were Christian, because they were not. Mobius, the Roman Catholic Church has always persecuted the Real Christians.

    Mobius, I am truly sorrowful to learn that you do not believe that the Holy Scriptures are the complete and perfect Word of G-d. Mobius, years ago I wasn’t sure what I believed. I searched the Qur’an, the Vedas, the Upanishads, the Bible…and I was lost…

    There was an emptiness inside of me. For the longest time I tried to fill this emptines - this void - with material goods, with acts, with works. And every religion speaks of this emptiness; Islam, Judaism, Hinduism; they all make mention of this void. Furthermore, every religion claims to hold the answer to fulfilling this emptiness.

    Mobius, I pray that you read Ecclesiastes, because G-d spoke through King Solomon on this very matter. G-d speaks of this emptiness in His Holy Word; He speaks of this drive to fulfill some divine purpose. And, what G-d revealed to King Solomon is that this purpose, in life, is to love and serve the Almighty G-d.

    Mobius, from what I can see, you do not believe this faith of which I speak. But, I say unto you, that our very existence is evidence at the very least that we were created by an intelligent supreme being. As nature itself is testament, nothing in this universe may come to be in of its own power. There is always an “external force” which acts upon those things which are, which in turn is the cause of the consequence. This universal law is the mark of G-d’s work - it means that we were undoubtedly created by a Higher Being.

    I once tried to disprove the Bible, only to find more compelling evidence of its perfectness than ever before. I cannot deny the purity of the Holy Scriptures. Even literary historians remark in amazement of the continuity of the Bible, which should be impossible to achieve in a book written over thousands of years.

    But all of what I am saying, in the end, is inconsequential to the real heart of the matter. And the real heart of the matter is faith.

    We must all choose to believe in something. And if we choose not to believe in G-d, then we choose to believe in man. Nevertheless, every man must make a choice to believe in something.

    Mobius, I have made my choice. I have searched the heavens, and I have come to realize that the G-d of the Bible is the one true G-d. I have bowed my knee, and confessed my sins, and have repented, surrendering myself to G-d. I have made my choice. But, I wonder, have you?

    John 3:16 says, “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth on him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”

    The real G-d is not the god of the qur’an. The real G-d loves man, but man did not love Him. Man chose to walk out of G-d’s will, and into death. Death and Hell are not the results of G-d’s anger towards man; they are the results of our disobedience to G-d. We men have chosen death; G-d did not place death upon us. The consequence of sining against G-d is death, just as the consequence of ceasing to eat is that you starve, or as the consequence of ceasing to breathe is that you suffocate.

    But G-d loves us, Mobius. And G-d provided a way for us to escape hell; and this escape is the Messiah, the Lord Jesus Christ.

    John 4:14 says, “But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give shall him shall never thirst; but the water I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.”

    Romans 3:23 says, “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God”

    Romans 5:8 says, “But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.”

    And, finally…Romans 10:9 and 10 say:

    “10:9 - That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.”
    “10:10 - For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.”

    Mobius, you too may have eternal life. Mobius, I say unto you that G-d does not wish for you to spend eternity in hell, for hell was not created for man; hell was created for the devil and his angels. But we men have sinned against G-d, and in so doing we have chosen death over life. But G-d, in his grace and mercy, has provided us with a second opportunity to choose life over death. G-d gave us the sacrifice of Christ, in whom we may trust, so that we may be saved and so we may be with G-d for all eternity.

    And I tell you these things, not to make you angry, but because I have compassion for your soul. It is my heart’s desire that you be saved, and be counted among the brethren.

    Salvation is the gift of eternal life which G-d gave me. Why would I want to hide this from the world? Why would I want to keep this salvation secret? If I hide the gospel from my neighbor, then I hate my neighbor. But If I love my neighbor, then I am compelled by the Body of Christ to bare witness to my neighbor.

    Mobius, I can understand what you believe, because I once believed as you did. But I am beseeching you, Mobius, that you turn from your path. Why? Because you know, as well as I do, what lies down that road. You know in your heart that the ways of this world can only lead to damnation. Don’t go down that road, Mobius - I beg you! I implore you to turn to Christ; my heart pleads for you, because I want you to be saved!

    I know you may not believe as I believe. And I PROMISE YOU that I will wish no harm against you if you do not believe as I do.

    But, dear Mobius, I also promise you this: from hereafter, I will pray every day that you will ask the Lord Jesus Christ to forgive you, and to save you. I will pray daily for your salvation, even until the very day I die. I pray this in the name of the LORD Jesus Christ, because I care for your soul, and I have compassion for your spirit.

    And I pray also that anyone who reads this may confess and submit before the LORD Jesus Christ.

    My friends…The LORD stands at your heart, knocking. Will you let Him in? I pray you do.

    And I pray all of this, by the LORD Jesus Christ, Amen.

  • 12 Anne Kraemer // Mar 9, 2007 at 7:40 am

    Isaiah 52:7
    How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of Him who brings Good Tidings.
    that publishes peace; that brings good tidings of good, that publishes salvation; that says unto Zion, Thy God reigneth.

    Oh God most High, may it please you to see that our heart’s are turning toward you.

  • 13 Mobius // Mar 9, 2007 at 3:28 pm

    http://nobeliefs.com/luther.htm

    catholics huh?

    look at you trying to convert me.

    you have no idea what antisemitism is. and you clearly have completely missed the point as to why men like theodor herzl pursued jewish statehood.

    it was to get us away from people like you.

  • 14 Anne Kraemer // Mar 9, 2007 at 6:39 pm

    Dear Mobius
    I have taken to heart your link on Luther.
    I am going to read His book throughout this day.
    The apple doesn\’t fall far from the tree
    as far as the Human Race goes. There is a depravity of the human heart.
    Despite the fact that Luther said not to use reason…..he used this to communicate both truths and conjecture, and appalling verbage.
    Each of us has an intelligence to accept or reject this.
    So, is it that you too have been indoctrinated to see Reason above conscience? I speak as one knowing how I have violated the true issues of Relational intelligence, relational communication and relational love.
    Tell me. What is a Jew? and what is Jewish Statehood? I don\’t understand this. Is it a race? A religion? A bloodline? A secret society?
    As a human race we have many things in common.
    I was raised a Lutheran and was ignorant of Martin Luthers spoken words about the Jews and His calling this judgment to be executed upon them.
    All I knew of Him was that (indoctrination. absolution, appeasement was driven into the minds and hearts of the masses of illiterate people through the misuse and abuse of what is called Christianity or Roman Catholocism as it spread thru Europe,) and that He was of a mind to take both Old and early church writings and make a common book in which was the people\’s language. This happened to be German. He also experienced a revelation of deeper understanding (that we cannot ever by our deeds (become righteous) but rather we are called by the WORD , being led to that WORD through the God of Abraham to lead us to YHISHIVH and to overcome our flesh through spirit. So this is where I left off in the Lutheran Faith and as it taught me a foundation to the study of scripture…as historical, as geographical, as Prophetic, as science and Math, as social and as spiritual,in referencing, in concordance to Hebrew and Greek, I had recieved the seeds of a tiny bit of knowledge and even wisdom to apply to life (my life) and others. But….a little milk was for a nursing baby….and I left all that behind to go on, to grow up…..to search diligently and to continue on in this very precious existence. I did eventually come to the trauma of existential crisis…when all cognitive thinking and reason was of no value whatsoever, as I lost myself in psychosis brought on by mania. And within that I could then begin to understand that my oppressors were not of my own making. In this state of lonely existence…I found strength, courage, and faith, that all of God\’s edicts, precepts were still in place, would forever be in place and that I was a part of that. His eternal laws were there. I found this condition later confimed along with His attributes in the book of Psalms of David
    119 LAMED. Please take time to read it if you want to understand me. Gravity held me, because He is the greatest mathemetician and scientist and this my soul now knew. Not my intellect, but my soul. \’The Lonely man of Faith.\’ Is that you?
    In the last book that I re-read of Chaim Potok….as a Jewish man, He was moved beyond Judaism for his need to continue his search for fulfillment. Is this what you are trying to say? Where is Love?

    Yours truly, I certainly will understand and respect you if you chose not answer me. After all, what would I know? As my son sometimes says to me. \’Mom, I could give a care.\’
    Yours truly,
    Anne

  • 15 Anne Kraemer // Mar 9, 2007 at 6:46 pm

    I guess, in response to a comment you made that Israel still sticks out like a sore thumb. I had two thoughts. Your right to any kind of privacy has been violated to the extreme. Right now, I see that thumb throbbing.
    Anne

  • 16 Nerah // Mar 15, 2007 at 2:52 am

    Mobius,
    “whosoever harms a single hair upon a jew’s head will answer to me personally on judgment day.” — the quran

    Could you tell me where in the quran is this verse..IE. surah/hadith chapter and verse? and also what version you are reading it out of. Because as far as I have read that contradicts every other command in the quran such as:
    Quran surah an nisa ayah 89,(Shakir) They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah’s way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.

    and even sicker is surah al meada 5:33, (Shakir) The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement,

    51)(Shakir) O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.

    Those are from a Muslim website.
    There are so many more horrible verses!

    Killing Jews and Christians is mandated in the Quran. In a viscous way! It amazes me when Jewish people, Christians, or anyone else feel that muslims or thier religion is akin to Judaism, Christianity, or any other beliefs. allah is not God, Muhammeds revelation was from satan!

    Here is a video that has alot of verses from the quran:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxBnNV4Jmd4

  • 17 Victor Passenheim // Mar 15, 2007 at 11:51 pm

    Mobius,

    Unlike Steven, I am not sorry for you at all. You are a piece of ____. Watch your back, because if there is a just God, AND THERE IS, you will be getting a small taste of His righteous indignation against liars such as yourself.

  • 18 Steven // Mar 17, 2007 at 8:00 pm

    Mobius,

    I will say it again. I wish no harm upon you, or upon your people. I am thankful to God Almighty that the Jewish people have a Sovereign State that they may call home. I will always pray for the protection of Israel. And, even if my homeland turned against Israel, I would willingly take up arms to defend her.

    But this does not change the fact that I still believe that every man, Jew or Gentile, must place his faith in God Almighty, and ask for forgiveness by the shed blood of Jesus Christ.

    This is not anti-Semitism; these words are in likeness of the very words which were preached by Paul, Peter and Stephen. Mobius - The Church’s greatest Apostles were Jewish.

    Remember, Christ came not to destroy the Jewish Law, but, rather, He came to fulfill it. That is what is meant by salvation - it is the fulfillment; the final atonement,which can come only by the Messiah, who is, and who always will be, the LORD and Savior Jesus Christ.

    I tell you this plainly, because I have a passion for souls. I care for your soul, my friend. I am still praying for you.

  • 19 jimmie // Oct 26, 2007 at 11:30 pm

    moslim killed while acting out orders from the koran - “kill jew” goes directly to heaven and has plenty of food, water, virgins etc for eternity.

    why would any and i mean ANY moslim “protest”?

    protest for those rewards? - i wouldnt

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