Bush needs to hear this guy

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• 1 Charles Wesley // Sep 17, 2006 at 10:18 pm

  The Antichrist will bring peace to Israel as stated in the Bible. I would not want to be that one.! I understand that the Temple of GOD will be built when he comes to power.
  Again this is spoken of in the Bible that there will be no peace until that time. It’s a no brainer to see there will be no peace until the end times and you do not want to be the peace maker. All you have to do is read the (program) for the life and times of man . It is called the Bible. What is disconcerting is that we can not change the events to come , but we can change our spiritual destiny.

• 2 Victor Passenheim // Sep 18, 2006 at 2:02 pm

  Professor Sharon could yell it at the top of his lungs, but it wouldn’t do him any good. The majority of the world doesn’t want to hear it. It “cramps their style” - genocidal plans for the Jewish people.

• 3 Charles Wesley // Sep 19, 2006 at 4:16 am

  Israel is going to survive even though America may be not be able to help them. When Israel is in its darkest hour GOD will sustain them. The Bible in the old testament tells that the LORD will come back and save them. They wrote the Bible I suggest they read it. GOD gave the Jews the word But Israel must have faith!

• 4 Victor Passenheim // Sep 19, 2006 at 5:20 am

  Charles,

  I would add to what you said “even if America does not help them”. Also, it would be nice if most American Christians read the Bible and had faith in what it said. They would crawl out of their skin knowing the Bush is pressuring Israel to divide the Land- and to a terrorist entity no less!

• 5 AMorton // Sep 19, 2006 at 3:02 pm

  Quote from Charles:
  The Antichrist will bring peace to Israel as stated in the Bible. I would not want to be that one.! I understand that the Temple of GOD will be built when he comes to power.

  Charles, not wanting to put you on the spot, where does the Bible say either of these things will happen in out future?

• 6 John // Sep 19, 2006 at 3:39 pm

  If people really want to get the TRUTH out, this is the fellow to call on. He is a brillant speaker. Speaks perfect Arabic and fluent (British) English. He knows his stuff.

  Let us not wait for President Bush to meet him. Let us MAKE a meeting happen, NOW.

  He should be the spokes person for Israel side of the story.

• 7 Charles Wesley // Sep 19, 2006 at 3:56 pm

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• 8 Charles Wesley // Sep 19, 2006 at 3:56 pm

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• 9 Charles Wesley // Sep 19, 2006 at 3:57 pm

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• 10 dum // Sep 19, 2006 at 3:59 pm

  Anti-Semitism (alternatively spelled antisemitism) is hostility toward or prejudice against Jews as a religious, ethnic, or racial group, which can range in expression from individual hatred to institutionalized, violent persecution. The highly explicit ideology of Adolf Hitler’s Nazism was the most extreme example of this phenomenon, leading to a genocide of the European Jewry.
  Anti-Semitism can be broadly defined into three different forms:

  Religious based anti-Semitism, or anti-Judaism. As the name implies, it was the practice of Judaism itself which was the defining characteristic of the anti-Semitic attacks. Under this version of anti-Semitism, attacks would often stop if Jews stopped practicing, or changed their public faith. The concept that Jews believe themselves to be the Chosen People which can be found offensive and lead to anti-semitism.
  Racial anti-Semitism. Either a pre-cursor, or a by-product of the Eugenics movement, racial anti-Semitism replaced the hatred of the Jews religion/culture, with the concept that the Jews themselves were a distinct (and lesser) race of the human species. Unlike the religious version, the problem was not the Jews social beliefs, but rather genetic.

• 11 dum // Sep 19, 2006 at 4:02 pm

  Main article: Christianity and anti-Semitism
  Martin Luther, an Augustinian monk and an ecclesiastical reformer whose teachings inspired the Reformation, wrote antagonistically about Jews in his book On the Jews and their Lies, which describes the Jews in extremely harsh terms, excoriating them, and providing detailed recommendation for a pogrom against them and their permanent oppression and/or expulsion. According to Paul Johnson, it “may be termed the first work of modern anti-Semitism, and a giant step forward on the road to the Holocaust.”[16] In his final sermon shortly before his death, however, Luther preached “We want to treat them with Christian love and to pray for them, so that they might become converted and would receive the Lord.”[17] Still, Luther’s harsh comments about the Jews are seen by many as a continuation of medieval Christian anti-Semitism. See also Martin Luther and Antisemitism

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  Anti-Semitism in 19th and 20th century (Catholicism)
  Throughout the 19th century and into the 20th, the Catholic Church still incorporated strong anti-Semitic elements, despite increasing attempts to separate anti-Judaism, the opposition to the Jewish religion on religious grounds, and racial anti-Semitism. Pope Pius VII (1800-1823) had the walls of the Jewish Ghetto in Rome rebuilt after the Jews were released by Napoleon, and Jews were restricted to the Ghetto through the end of the papacy of Pope Pius IX (1846-1878), the last Pope to rule Rome. Additionally, official organizations such as the Jesuits banned candidates “who are descended from the Jewish race unless it is clear that their father, grandfather, and great-grandfather have belonged to the Catholic Church” until 1946. Brown University historian David Kertzer, working from the Vatican archive, has further argued in his book The Popes Against the Jews that in the 19th and 20th century the Roman Catholic Church adhered to a distinction between “good anti-Semitism” and “bad anti-Semitism”. The “bad” kind promoted hatred of Jews because of their descent. This was considered un-Christian because the Christian message was intended for all of humanity regardless of ethnicity; anyone could become a Christian. The “good” kind criticized alleged Jewish conspiracies to control newspapers, banks, and other institutions, to care only about accumulation of wealth, etc. Many Catholic bishops wrote articles criticizing Jews on such grounds, and, when accused of promoting hatred of Jews, would remind people that they condemned the “bad” kind of anti-Semitism. Kertzer’s work is not, therefore, without critics; scholar of Jewish-Christian relations Rabbi David G. Dalin, for example, criticized Kertzer in the Weekly Standard for using evidence selectively. The Second Vatican Council, the Nostra Aetate document, and the efforts of Pope John Paul II have helped reconcile Jews and Catholicism in recent decades, however

• 12 dum // Sep 19, 2006 at 4:06 pm

  Experiments
  According to the indictment at the Subsequent Nuremberg Trials, these experiments included:

  High altitude experiments. In early 1942 prisoners at Dachau concentration camp were tortured so the Nazi German Air Force (Luftwaffe) could find out the capacity of the human body to endure and survive high altitude. A low-pressure chamber was used to duplicate altitude conditions of up to 68,000 feet. Subjects were then forced into these simulated altitudes within the chamber.
  Freezing experiments. Later in 1942 the Luftwaffe conducted experiments to learn how to treat hypothermia. One study forced subjects to endure a tank of ice water, sometimes for as long as 3 hours. Another study placed prisoners naked in the open for several hours with temperatures below freezing. Nazi experimenters assessed different ways of rewarming survivors. Many people died as a result of these experiments. [3]
  Malaria experiments. From about February 1942 to about April 1945 experiments were conducted at the Dachau concentration camp in order to investigate immunization for treatment of malaria. Healthy concentration-camp inmates were infected by mosquitoes or by injections of extracts of the mucous glands of mosquitoes. After having contracted malaria the subjects were treated with various drugs to test their relative efficiency. Over 1,000 involuntary subjects were used in these experiments, many of whom died.
  LOST (mustard) gas experiments. At various times between September 1939 and April 1945 experiments were conducted at Sachsenhausen, Natzweiler, and other concentration camps, to investigate the most effective treatment of wounds caused by LOST gas, a poison commonly known as mustard gas. Wounds were inflicted on the subjects who were tested with LOST. Some of the subjects died as a result of these experiments.
  Sulfonamide experiments. From about July 1942 to about September 1943 experiments to investigate the effectiveness of sulfonamide were conducted at the Ravensbrück concentration camp. Wounds inflicted on the experimental subjects were infected with bacterial infections; such as streptococcus, gas gangrene and tetanus. Circulation of blood was interrupted by tying off blood vessels at both ends of the wound to create a condition similar to that of a battlefield wound. Infection was aggravated by forcing wood shavings and ground glass into the wounds. The infection was treated with sulfonamide and other drugs to determine their effectiveness. Some subjects died as a result of these experiments.
  Bone, muscle, and nerve regeneration and bone transplantation experiments. From about September 1942 to about December 1943 experiments were conducted at the Ravensbrück concentration camp to study bone, muscle, and nerve regeneration, and bone transplantation from one person to another. Sections of bones, muscles, and nerves were removed from the subjects.
  Sea water experiments. From about July 1944 to about September 1944 experiments were conducted at the Dachau concentration camp to study various methods of making sea water drinkable. Some of the subjects were deprived of all food and given only chemically processed sea water.
  Epidemic jaundice experiments. From about June 1943 to about January 1945 experiments were conducted at the Sachsenhausen and Natzweiler concentration camps to investigate the causes of, and inoculations against, epidemic jaundice. Experimental subjects were deliberately infected with epidemic jaundice, some of whom died as a result.
  Sterilization experiments. From about March 1941 to about January 1945 sterilization experiments were conducted at the Auschwitz and Ravensbrück concentration camps, and other places. The purpose of these experiments was to develop a method of sterilization which would be suitable for sterilizing millions of people with a minimum of time and effort. These experiments were conducted by means of X-ray, surgery, and various drugs. Thousands of victims were sterilized. (Aside from its experimentation, the Nazi government sterilized around 400,000 individuals as part of its compulsory sterilization program)
  Typhus (Fleckfieber) experiments. From about December 1941 to about February 1945 experiments were conducted at the Buchenwald and Natzweiler concentration camps to investigate the effectiveness of spotted fever and other vaccines. At Buchenwald numerous healthy inmates were deliberately infected with typhus bacteria in order to keep the bacteria alive; over 90 percent of the victims died as a result. Other healthy inmates were used to determine the effectiveness of different spotted fever vaccines and of various chemical substances. In the course of these experiments 75 percent of the selected number of inmates were vaccinated with one of the vaccines or nourished with one of the chemical substances and, after a period of 3 to 4 weeks, were infected with spotted fever germs. The remaining 25 percent were infected without any previous protection in order to compare the effectiveness of the vaccines and the chemical substances. As a result, hundreds of the persons experimented upon died. Experiments with yellow fever, smallpox, typhus, paratyphus A and B, cholera, and diphtheria were also conducted. Similar experiments with like results were conducted at Natzweiler concentration camp.
  Experiments with poison. In or about December 1943, and in or about October 1944, experiments were conducted at the Buchenwald concentration camp to investigate the effect of various poisons upon human beings. The poisons were secretly administered to experimental subjects in their food. The victims died as a result of the poison or were killed immediately in order to permit autopsies. In or about September 1944 experimental subjects were shot with poisoned bullets and suffered torture and death.
  Incendiary bomb experiments. From about November 1943 to about January 1944 experiments were conducted at the Buchenwald concentration camp to test the effect of various pharmaceutical preparations on phosphorus burns. These burns were inflicted on experimental subjects with phosphorus matter taken from incendiary bombs.

• 13 dum // Sep 19, 2006 at 4:07 pm

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• 14 dum // Sep 19, 2006 at 4:16 pm

  The Jewish people and Judaism have experienced various persecutions throughout Jewish history. In medieval Europe, many persecutions of Jews in the name of Christianity occurred, notably during the Crusades—when Jews all over Germany were massacred—and a series of expulsions from England, Germany, France, and, in the largest expulsion of all, Spain. In the Papal States, which existed until 1870, Jews were required to live only in specified neighborhoods called ghettos. In the 19th and (before the end of the second World War) 20th centuries, the Roman Catholic church adhered to a distinction between “good anti-Semitism” and “bad anti-Semitism”. The “bad” kind promoted hatred of Jews because of their descent. This was considered un-Christian because the Christian message was intended for all of humanity regardless of ethnicity; anyone could become a Christian. The “good” kind criticized alleged Jewish conspiracies to control newspapers, banks, and other institutions, to care only about accumulation of wealth, etc.

• 15 dum // Sep 19, 2006 at 4:16 pm

  Messianic Jewish view
  Messianic Jews hold that Jesus is the prophesied Messiah. Strictly speaking, all Messianic Jews are Christians, but the term generally applies to those Jews who believe Jesus to be the Messiah but still hold to and practice many Jewish traditions and occasionally Jewish law. Often the tension between Jewish Monotheism and Christian Trinitarianism promotes a diversity of opinions about Jesus’s divine status.

  A prominent group of Messianic Jews is Jews for Jesus, part of a loose affiliation of Evangelical Christians

• 16 oReally.....About Messia // Sep 19, 2006 at 4:22 pm

  Judaism considers the idea of Jesus being God, or part of a Trinity, or a mediator to God, as heresy.(Emunoth ve-Deoth, II:5) Judaism also does not consider Jesus to be the Messiah primarily because he did not fulfill the Messianic prophecies of the Tanakh, nor embodied the personal qualifications of the Messiah.[64]

  The Mishneh Torah (an authoritative work of Jewish law) states:

  Even Jesus the Nazarene who imagined that he would be Messiah and was killed by the court, was already prophesied by Daniel. So that it was said, “And the members of the outlaws of your nation would be carried to make a (prophetic) vision stand. And they stumbled” (Daniel 11.14). Because, is there a greater stumbling-block than this one? So that all of the prophets spoke that the Messiah redeems Israel, and saves them, and gathers their banished ones, and strengthens their commandments. And this one caused (nations) to destroy Israel by sword, and to scatter their remnant, and to humiliate them, and to exchange the Torah, and to make the majority of the world err to serve a divinity besides God. However, the thoughts of the Creator of the world — there is no force in a human to attain them because our ways are not God’s ways, and our thoughts not God’s thoughts. And all these things of Jesus the Nazarene, and of (Muhammad) the Ishmaelite who stood after him — there is no (purpose) but to straighten out the way for the King Messiah, and to restore all the world to serve God together. So that it is said, “Because then I will turn toward the nations (giving them) a clear lip, to call all of them in the name of God and to serve God (shoulder to shoulder as) one shoulder.” (Zephaniah 3.9). Look how all the world already becomes full of the things of the Messiah, and the things of the Torah, and the things of the commandments! And these things spread among the far islands and among the many nations uncircumcised of heart. (Hilkhot Melakhim 11:10–12)[65]

  Reform Judaism, the modern progressive movement, states For us in the Jewish community anyone who claims that Jesus is their savior is no longer a Jew and is an apostate. (Contemporary American Reform Responsa, #68).[66]

  According to Jewish tradition, there were no more prophets after 420 BC/BCE, Malachi being the last prophet, who lived centuries before Jesus. Judaism states that Jesus did not fulfill the requirements set by the Torah to prove that he was a prophet. Even if Jesus had produced such a sign, Judaism states that no prophet or dreamer can contradict the laws already stated in the Torah (Deut 13:1–5)[67]

• 17 oReally.....About Messia // Sep 19, 2006 at 4:26 pm

  SO IF THE JUSUS IS CALLED AS MESSIA THAN AFTER COMMING HIM AS A MESSIA WILL JEWISH PEOPLE CONVERT TO THE CHRISTIANITY OR WILL CHRISTIAN PEOPLE WILL CONVERT TO JUDISM??????????????????

• 18 oReally.....About Messia // Sep 19, 2006 at 4:28 pm

  Reform Judaism, the modern progressive movement, states For us in the Jewish community anyone who claims that Jesus is their savior is no longer a Jew and is an apostate. (Contemporary American Reform Responsa, #68).[66]

  According to Jewish tradition, there were no more prophets after 420 BC/BCE, Malachi being the last prophet, who lived centuries before Jesus. Judaism states that Jesus did not fulfill the requirements set by the Torah to prove that he was a prophet. Even if Jesus had produced such a sign, Judaism states that no prophet or dreamer can contradict the laws already stated in the Torah (Deut 13:1–5)[67]

• 19 Mmisa // Sep 19, 2006 at 4:33 pm

  GREATE ARTICLE………..

• 20 Chris // Sep 20, 2006 at 2:44 am

  Are you denying the deity of Christ? Unbelief is the one sin that will send anyone (guilty) to hell (gehenna). Repent of unbelief, for the Messiah has risen from the dead (Yeshua = Jesus). Elohim in Genesis is a plural form for God. (God sent his son through immaculate conception and God allows the Holy Spirit to lead those who are saved by faith through God’s grace, allowing for one’s sanctification). Gentiles who become Christians are grafted into the tree, thus a saved Gentile is a Jew, religiously speaking. Now the law has become a stumbling block to many, but through Christ, we are conformed to his image, as long as we are not carnal Christians. Just as well, Jesus is a stumbling block to the Jews who cannot, for whatever reason, accept their salvation from Jesus. Remember, God’s ways are not our ways. Genesis 3:21 explains the fall of Adam and Eve. You cannot cover sin with a salad (fig leaves). Their must be blood for the atoning of sins. As we read through the Tanach, God’s word points to our salvation and redemption through faith in Christ alone, the ultimate sacrifice. I pray that one soul, somewhere in internet land will come to Christ for their salvation.

  In Christ,
  Chris

• 21 Charles Wesley // Sep 20, 2006 at 2:51 am

  Hi Victor,
  The American Christians wholeheartly support Israel in the defence of their country. I don’t believe we will abandon the Jewish people, But I do believe that we are not going to be able to access that area as Israel is completely surrounded by hostiles. We may be attacked from within by terrorist hand carrying Nuclear Suitcase bombs or whatever. I can’t otherwise believe that we will allow Russia to seize Israel
  as many interpret as happening in Ezekiel 38 & 39. As far as giving up land , nobody likes that ideal . And trading prisoners only makes Nassrella look like a hero.

• 22 Charles Wesley // Sep 20, 2006 at 3:22 am

  A Morton hello,
  I am hunting the verses. I have read them many times but I can’t remember each one. To start with I believe that the newly recovered Sanhedrin was asked how they would be able to rebuild the temple ,being that a war would break out if they tried. The response was that the Antichrist would give Israel 3 years of peace then they would build it.
  In the bible Revelations chapter 11 the Temple of GOD is referred to as existing and 42 months of existence where Elijah and i believe Enoch will be prophesying. The court will trodden down by the gentiles . Daniel chp. 11 verse 31 the abomination that maketh desolate. These few scriptures are
  tells of the Temple existing and we know it does not exist now.

• 23 AMorton // Sep 20, 2006 at 3:28 am

  Charles Wesley said:
  These few scriptures are
  tells of the Temple existing and we know it does not exist now.

  Except when the apostle John was given the revelation the temple was in existance. Nowhere in the New testament does it even remotely tell that a third temple will be built.

  I guess my point is is that people sometimes get their eschatology from preachers and teachers instead of what the Bible says. However, I do not think it is a salvation issue so I won’t press it.

• 24 Charles Wesley // Sep 20, 2006 at 3:38 am

  To all
  I surely am not anti Semitic . I love Jesus my Savior The Son OF GOD. The Jewish people were blinded to his coming so that the Gentile might receive salvation. The Jews have had to bear that burden for two thousand years. Not a single Christian that I have ever known blames the Jews for anything. We instead hold the Jewish people in high esteem as God’s chosen people. We consider ourselves to be grafted into the Vine which is Jesus ,and he is a Jew.
  The Bible came from the Torah I do believe.

• 25 Charles Wesley // Sep 20, 2006 at 3:59 am

  A Morton
  Check out 2nd. Thessalonians Chapter. 2 verse 4 and tell me where the Antichrist is sitting and what that means to you. He is sitting in the Temple of GOD . He has not been here yet and the Temple has not existed for almost 2000 years. Rev. 11 tells the same thing! If you are Jewish you know that the temple reconstruction is a priority so that the Daily Sacrifice can start.

• 26 Chris // Sep 20, 2006 at 3:59 am

  Charles,

  The Torah is the law (the 1st 5 books of O.T.). The Tanach is the whole Old Testament, although the Tanach’s books are in a different order than any KJV or whatever version (modern 1500’s till now) one uses.

  Now, I would like for all to read this story……very disturbing rhetoric out of the middle east area that may affect the U.S. and Israel. Anyway, we know Christ will send his angels to the 4 corners to gather his elect………..here is the link

  http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52018

• 27 Chris // Sep 20, 2006 at 4:03 am

  I believe if you read Matthew 24 and 25, you will read about the Abomination of Desolation and if you let Jesus come into your heart you will see prophecy through God’s word

• 28 Charles Wesley // Sep 20, 2006 at 4:08 am

  Thanks Chris
  I am very interested in the Jewish people. All I know is what the Bible says. I believe the U.S. is going to take it in the back for supporting Israel ,but all for Jesus.

• 29 Charles Wesley // Sep 20, 2006 at 4:11 am

  Chris I call Matt. 24 Revelations 24. I cant help it . There is more revelations in that one chapter than any other.

• 30 Chris // Sep 20, 2006 at 4:28 am

  The parallel passages to Mat 24 and 25 are Mark 13:1-37 and Luke 21:5-36. I encourage you to read all 3 versions of the Olivet discourse from Jesus. The temple was destroyed in like 70 a.d.. Many believe prophecy was met then, but Jesus also answers many questions, including end times, in this discourse. Things that have not happened are mentioned, like the shortening of the days and such.

• 31 Charles Wesley // Sep 20, 2006 at 4:36 am

  In Daniel 12 he gives some important clues for event s concerning the return of Christ and the 45 days (little season) Or shortening of days. Verse 11 is all we were to know of that time.

• 32 Chris // Sep 20, 2006 at 4:51 am

  3 1/2 years is what verse 11 refers to. Btw, there will never be an agreement in middle east until the antichrist sets up. Those people have been feuding since Isaac and Ishmael and the whole darn thing is about land. Ishmael was conceived because Abraham and Sarah doubted God with give her child in her old age. They took matters into their own hands, but God kept his promise and they had Isaac, the promised seed, the lineage to David, the lineage to Jesus. Oh, well! Charles, I have another web sit for you. I do not know if I agree with everything on this site, but if you would like to read about prophecy, this website will give you about a 36 page pdf. Always nice if you have broadband internet.

  THis is on rapture doctrine….
  http://www.british-israel.ca/Rapture.htm

  This is the homepage of the preceding link, if you want to read other material, but I dont know that I agree with all since I have not read all
  http://www.british-israel.ca/prophecy.htm

• 33 Marsha Carol Watson // Sep 20, 2006 at 5:24 am

  Heavenly Father, I come in the name of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Father, Glorify thy name on this website. You see and know all things. Glorify thy name on this website. amen and amen marsha

• 34 Chris // Sep 20, 2006 at 5:42 am

  Marsha,

  Thanks you for your prayer. May God be glorified!

• 35 Mmisa // Sep 20, 2006 at 12:04 pm

  Jews Against Zionism:
  “…it is our obligation to make it known in order that everyone should understand that the Zionists are not the nation of Israel… and it is most definitely our holy obligation to announce before those nations of the world that the Zionists are not the spokespeople of the nation of Israel…” - Grand Rabbi Joel Teitelbaum

  “It (labeling people ‘anti-semitic’) has been a handy and effective weapon which has destroyed countless careers and is responsible for the totally illegitimate Zionist regime. Zionists have cleverly suggested for a hundred years, by smearing their critics as ‘anti-Semites,’ that the Zionists are the legitimate conquerors of Palestine. Zionists have never actually SAID they were Semitic - just that their enemies are ‘anti-Semitic.’ Pretty neat…and completely dishonest. But in light of the genuine anti-Semitism of the Zionists it becomes a bizarre obscenity when these non-Semitic aliens accuse their Semitic victims of ‘anti-Semitism’.

  I believe this is the central issue regarding The Jewish Question. When awareness of this matter becomes more widespread, and it will now, the Zionist state will lose support even from the deluded Christians, who need Semitic-type Jews running “Israel” for the fulfillment of their bloody dreams. The Zionists will be exposed as pseudo-religious gangsters.” –J. Bruce Campbell

  “Once a day on average I get a letter from someone asking me how I could allow myself to be published and interviewed by Jeff Rense, the popular web and radio host who publishes way too much anti-Israel material. I have no problem answering, “Because he lets me, which is more than I can say about the mainstream Jewish media.” Jeff Rense is an honest voice and he permits me to reach a huge audience of New Age Lefties, and misguided Righties bombarded with lies about Israel.

  -Barry Chamish Author: Who Murdered Yitzhak Rabin, The Last Days Of Israel - Israeli Edition, and Israel Betrayed

• 36 Mmisa // Sep 20, 2006 at 4:45 pm

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• 37 Nathan // Sep 21, 2006 at 2:04 am

  Arabs are evil people. You must look at the middle east and its close relationship to Hitler. They had close ties dating back to WWII. Hitler even told the Grand Mufti of “Palestine” that his true intention of the war was to exterminate all Jewry from governments, states, etc…and that he had to keep his secret safe. There were even two panzer divison sized groups of muslim ss divisons. Hitler died but the evil did not, it only transferred itself.

• 38 John Weimer // Sep 22, 2006 at 10:46 pm

  True Christians are with Israel all the way. We will continue to pray for peace in Jerusalem and for all Jewish people. They are God’s Chosen and true Christians do not believe in “Replacement theology”. God will never abandon His people. He will protect them and even in the conflicts that will surely come, He will save all of Israel. As a Christian, I know that the Messiah is the only one who will restore peace in the Middle East as well as the rest of the world. Any country or people who willfully attack the Jewish people or their God-given homeland will face the wrath of an angry God. He will destroy Israel’s enemies. Please all read Ezekial and Revelation. The Lord is Faithful and True. God Himself will dry every tear. Shalom to all. May the U.S. never be so ignorant as to stop supporting Israel or the Jewish people. If we do we will also see and feel the wrath of God.

• 39 Nathan // Sep 23, 2006 at 12:43 am

  Why has G-d waited this long? Why is my question. Why did the almighty allow September 11th to happen. Why did he allow the Holocaust to happen? I am being serious, I am a man who lost his faith many years ago, so please give me your opinion.

• 40 AMorton // Sep 23, 2006 at 1:41 am

  Bad Christian theology regarding the “Holy Land” contributed to the tragic cruelty of the Crusades in the Middle Ages. Lamentably, bad Christian theology is today attributing to secular Israel a divine mandate to conquer and hold Palestine, with the consequence that the Palestinian people are marginalized and regarded as virtual “Canaanites.”

  Deuteronomy 20:16-18, “Only in the cities of these peoples that the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, you shall not leave alive anything that breathes. But you shall utterly destroy them, the Hittite and the Amorite, the Canaanite and the Perizzite, the Hivite and the Jebusite, as the Lord your God has commanded you, so that they may not teach you to do according to all their detestable things which they have done for their gods, so that you would sin against the Lord your God.” See also Leviticus 27:28-29.

  This doctrine is both contrary to the teaching of the New Testament and a violation of the Gospel mandate.

  Matthew 28:19, “Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations.”

  In addition, this theology puts those Christians who are urging the violent seizure and occupation of Palestinian land in moral jeopardy of their own bloodguiltiness. Are we as Christians not called to pray for and work for peace, warning both parties to this conflict that those who live by the sword will die by the sword?

  Matthew 26:52, “But Jesus said to him, ‘Put your sword in its place, for all who take the sword will perish by the sword.’”

  Only the Gospel of Jesus Christ can bring both temporal reconciliation and the hope of an eternal and heavenly inheritance to the Israeli and the Palestinian. Only through Jesus Christ can anyone know peace on earth.

• 41 Charles Wesley // Sep 23, 2006 at 4:31 am

  I am at a lost when it comes to the politics of Israel, and have heard of a question regarding Zionism and the good of Israel. I personally think Israel should not give up strategic high places and buffer zones because of demonstrated responses by radicals . I am not sure that the sequence of events to come as understood by most Christians are being interpreted the same way in Israel. What are the people of Israel seeing for the future?

• 42 Charles Wesley // Sep 23, 2006 at 5:39 am

  Nathan
  Life to GOD has two phases. In life on this earth our soul is in reality imprisoned within this vessel that facilitates the experiencing of this temporary existence on this earth. We learn to use this body and make it do what we want . We see only this side of life and cling to it. GOD knows what is on the other side of this arduous life . God may not have the same regard for sustained life on this earth instead of a greater reward. As our vessel that imprisons us can no longer function our soul is released. The life after death experiences reported support this thought. These people had some extraordinary experiences not including the white light. Death is a part of life and GOD would not see it as an end but as a new beginning.

• 43 Nathan // Sep 23, 2006 at 4:44 pm

  It just seems like this war is so biblical and not political. I myself think the world has to understand the nature of the arab beliefs. The Iranian president thinks he is ushering in the end of the world. We have to shift to fight a different war. I think people in America are to arrogant to even consider that as a possiabliity, they won’t even “go there” because it sounds to supernatural. Thanks Charles that last post helps bring some clarity to a young adult.

• 44 Charles Wesley // Sep 23, 2006 at 11:23 pm

  Set back and watch the fulfillment and praise GOD. There is nothing we can do to change a single thing in God’s will. Look up for your redemption draweth near. Nathan I can see you are looking to the return of Christ and will not be caught unaware. I thank GOD for brethren to fellowship with and strengthen my spirit.

• 45 Callie // Nov 25, 2006 at 8:57 am

  charlie boy,

  I know I’m posting really late and you will not read my words. but maybe I will tell you myself anyway on the current post

  HAVE YOU REALLY LOST IT?

  Printing your name 2000 times is pretty sickening. Says a lot about you.

• 46 Callie // Nov 25, 2006 at 8:59 am

  charlie boy,

  I always wondered about you.

  how sad

• 47 Charles Wesley // Nov 27, 2006 at 5:33 am

  What makes you think it was me that did that . Why would I?
  Why me? I have an ideal who did it .

• 48 Callie // Nov 27, 2006 at 5:35 am

  Maybe Charles its because I’m so dingy or clueless .

• 49 kitty // Apr 23, 2007 at 4:29 pm

  Very nice

• 50 debtfree states // Feb 16, 2008 at 2:30 am

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