Why August 22?

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• 1 an okie gardener // Jul 11, 2006 at 4:16 am

  After being surprised by the Revolution in Iran, you would think that State and CIA would have started taking religious motivation seriously.

• 2 Eric Simonson // Jul 11, 2006 at 6:00 am

  Incredible. I find these tidbits about the 12th Imam fascinating. Keep it up!

• 3 Eric Simonson // Jul 11, 2006 at 6:07 am

  BTW - your going on my blogroll.

• 4 dwntmpo // Jul 11, 2006 at 7:54 am

  I posted this at lgf where I saw the article.. thought I’d also post it here.. I hope the links work right..

  Here is a pretty good multiple calendar converter..

  August 22, 2006 on a current gregorian calendar converts to 27 Rajab, 1426 on the islamic calendar… 27 Rajab is supposedly the ‘ascent’ of Muhammad..

  The Battle of Nineveh was December 12, 627. At that time we would have been under the Julian calendar, and that date converts to 27 Rajab, year 6.

  Basically, 27 Rajab is also an anniversary of the day the Roman Byzantine Army defeated the Persians..

  Also interestingly (coincidental?) is the day that Ahmadinejad announced his letter to Bush was an invitation to Islam.. current gregorian date was May 11, 2006..

  Here is a list of some of mohammed’s ‘events’.. He sent out invitations to various rulers, (Egypt, Persia, Ethiopia, Byzantine) to accept Islam.. listed as just 1 Muharram, year 7.. which converts to the (then Julian calendar) date of May 11..

• 5 John Swails // Jul 11, 2006 at 4:58 pm

  The “Hidden Imam,” the 12th Imam began his “hidden” career with what is called the “Lesser Occultation (hidden is the basic meaning of occult) in 878 AD when he was caused to disappear in the cave under the great mosque at Samarra (the one that was blown up this winter). The Hidden Imam continued to be in contact with his followers–from Iran, it is thought–until he entered the “Greater Occultation” in 941 AD.

• 6 Charles Cameron // Jul 11, 2006 at 10:18 pm

  There’s some tantalising speculation without sufficient supporting documentation here. You write:

  Rumor is, Imam Mahdi could be returning this August (or shortly thereafter) <<

  Is there any documentation on this rumor? Where can I verify its existence? And why would that date, Aug 22, be chosen?

• 7 An opportune moment » Zionist.com // Jul 13, 2006 at 5:12 pm

  […] And with US forces in Iraq and Afghanistan sandwiching Iran, even madman Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is unlikely to attack Israel and give Washington the excuse it has sought to abruptly end his quest to pave the way for the 12th Imam. […]

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• 9 Edward in Oregon // Jul 14, 2006 at 11:57 pm

  I am concerned that we are too politically correct here in the USofA to take advantage of your thinking. We should have wiped out the junk in Iraq instead of being nice. We should put a very well placed Neutron bomb in a very centrally located territory of Iran to knock out this madman leader. Today, Israel is doing just what they should have done months ago. We ask daily for GOD to give the IDF the power to take these renegades off the map.

• 10 Xhefri Rich // Jul 19, 2006 at 6:28 am

  The August 22 dates seems also clear to me that NY was hit on Sept 11th. One month sooner and ½ of 22. Their buying time. It is obvious. The situation in Lebanon is a diversion from what is happening in Iran.

• 11 Synthia in Dallas // Jul 21, 2006 at 12:05 am

  I am a Christian but have been following Middle Eastern events very closely for the past 10 years or so, as we believe these times to be a fulfillment of prophecy that will ultimately usher in the second coming of Christ.

  No matter the difference in beliefs, the Jews are God’s chosen people and as such I feel a strong connection and love for them. Know that a large majority of Christians love the Holy Land and its rightful owners and are praying for Her peace and safety. Until that day, I pray for Israel’s strength and determination to do what everyone else has been too “polite” to do - FINISH THIS!

  Ezekiel 38:27-29
  A Prophecy Against Gog

  27 When I have brought them back from the nations and have gathered them from the countries of their enemies, I will show myself holy through them in the sight of many nations. 28 Then they will know that I am the LORD their God, for though I sent them into exile among the nations, I will gather them to their own land, not leaving any behind. 29 I will no longer hide my face from them, for I will pour out my Spirit on the house of Israel, declares the Sovereign LORD.”

  Ezekiel 38 & 39
  A Prophecy Against Gog
  http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel%2038-39%20;&version=31;

• 12 Jennifer // Aug 6, 2006 at 6:17 pm

  The 22nd of August is also the feast of the Immaculate Heart of Mary. In Fatima, Portugal, a town named after a converted Muslim Princess, the Blessed Mother gave a warning and a great sign in the sky which thousands witnessed. The sun hurtled toward the earth and many people thought they would die. The power of the sun , nuclear radiation. She also told the children a secret that has yet to be revealed , but the part that was said, “In the end my Immaculate Heart will triumph.”

• 13 marc silver // Aug 8, 2006 at 7:24 am

  On August 22, 2006 Joel’s prophecy of the great locust swarm will begin to be fulfilled. On that day, 3,000,000 Arab CIVILIANS, organized via thousands of local mosque internet connections, will simultaneously get into their automobiles, drive to the border of Israel, get out of their cars, walk into Israel, and take ANYTHING they want. The Israeli military will not be able to stop them because they will come on foot from all directions, from Jordan, Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia. Moreover, the military on principle will not fire on civilians. The Arab locusts know this. They will boldly march into Jewish houses, shops and offices. They will look each Jews in the eye and say “Ishmael was Abraham’s first born, a circumcised son of the Covenant. Sarah threw us out for no good reason, and now we’re here to take our birthright!”

  August 22 will be the start of the dreaded Time of Jacob’s Trouble, when Israel must review ALL of the terms of the Abrahamic Covenant, including the part about blessing the Gentiles. Like Jacob, the Nation must decide whether it supplanted Ishmael in 1948, or whether the land of actually the gift of God to Israel, or whether it was the gift of God to the nations VIA Isaac‘s descendents. The looting and plundering of Israel by Ishmael’s spawn will continue for 42 months until Sarah (the women of Israel) decide to allow Abraham (the men of Israel) to have his first-born back. Its has been Sarah’s age-old monopoly of intimate affection that has kept fathers and sons from each other, and now the Elijah miracle will bring them back together. As Zechariah said, the women will repent by themselves, so that the men of Israel can have the “long lost con.“ But only the horrendous impact of the “plague of locusts” can make this reunion actually happen.

• 14 Robert Nohr // Aug 8, 2006 at 8:52 pm

  A false Elijah, known as the false prophet will call fire down from heaven to deceive the nations. The true Elijah will be in Jerusalem with Enoch and fire will come out of their bellies to destroy those who will harm them.

• 15 WILLIAM T.JONES // Aug 9, 2006 at 4:50 am

  I BELIEVE THAT IRAN WILL DETONATE AN UNDERGROUND TEST OF ITS NUCLEAR WEAPONS ON AUGUST 22ND,2006 OR UBL WILL RETURN TO IRAN ON THAT DATE.
  (USAMA BIN LADEN) TO SHOW THE WORLD IRAN’S REPLY TO THE WEST’S OFFER TO STAND DOWN URANIUM ENRICHMENT.OR,THEY MAY DO BOTH.THE USA & THE REST OF THE FREE WORLD NEEDS TO UNITE IN WHAT I BELIEVE IS THE FINAL BATTLE OF GOOD VERSUS EVIL,CHRISTIANITY VERSUS ISLAM.THERE ARE NO “GOOD MUSLIMS”.THEY ALL ARE TAUGHT TO KILL,ENSLAVE,OR CONVERT ALL…..NON-MUSLIMS.MAY GOD HELP US ALL !!

• 16 Dave l // Aug 9, 2006 at 12:46 pm

  Doesnt anyone else see 9/11 (9+1)+(9+1)=20
  8/22 (8+2)+(8+2)= 20
  Not sure what it means but makes ya think

• 17 lld // Aug 9, 2006 at 7:27 pm

  Aug. 22nd should be watched, and prayed about. Remember Aug. 21st here is Aug. 22nd there. We need to all fast and pray Sunday, August 20th for Israel & the USA. The USA is wanted by South America the way Israel is wanted by Iran. And Iran to get Venezuelas oil will gladly help S.A. get USA. Pray the rapture happens first. Gods wrath will not be poured out until after the rapture, the church is NOT appointed to the wrath of God. But it has many times fell victim to the wrath of evil men. Pray God spares his people & that before an inevitable invasion the rapture happens. FAST & PRAY.

• 18 Dakota darlin' // Aug 9, 2006 at 8:50 pm

  I find this talk about Aug. 22 fascinating. Not long to wait..One comment, though, to Jennifer. The Bible tells us in the End Times, there will be counterfit miracles. If I were a Catholic I would be expecting Satan to immitate a vision of Mary. I’ve heard that there are Catholics who suspect that the last secret of Fatima will actually be a false word equating Mohammed with Jesus and leading to an unholy alliance of the Catholic faith and Islam. I know there are some Bible interpreters who are convinced that the Prince of Jordan (who, although, muslim, has studied Catholicism) will end up as the Anti-Christ. He helped draft the Oslo Accord and if I see that he plays a part in any new peace talks I think I might believe it. Say, did any of you hear about the Book of Psalms that was literally un-earthed in Ireland on July 25. It was perfectly preserved and was found opened to Psalm 83 which is all about the nations who are the enemies of God and are conspiring to wipe out the name of Israel forever. It even mentions Tyre, Lebanon (it’s old name of Gebal), and Phillistia (present day Gaza area), Assyria (Syria and part of Iraq, I think). Even CNN called this a very curious coincidence. Hmmm. For any of you interested in using the Bible as a resource for understanding what’s going on, read Micah 4. Very short. Oh.. one other interesting tidbit for rapture believers: I’ve heard that Arabic Christians who study End Times theology say, that when you read the Bible in old Arabic, the letters used for 666 look just like an Arabic word used to refer to Allah. Now, that’s beginning to make sense to me. I’m going to do some research on the internet on “Arabic 666 meaning Allah”. I wonder if this could be true.

• 19 Shining.Faith // Aug 9, 2006 at 11:49 pm

  “Jesus said to them: “Watch out that no one deceives you. Many will come in my name, claiming ‘I am he,’ and will deceive many. When you hear of wars and rumors of wars, do not be alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdon. There will be earthquakes in various places, and famines. These are the beginnings of birth pains.” Mark 13:5-8, NIV

• 20 Sam Rock // Aug 10, 2006 at 3:38 am

  Seriously, you people all sound TOTALLY CRAZY. I\’m not kidding. What a bunch on complete freaks. The saddest thing is that you are no more sane than the nutcase Muslims chanting in the street.

  Realize this. You are equally dangerous, because you buy into the same fanatical bull**** that is based on nothing real. The mathamatical \”formulas\” on here? 3 million Arab civilians will just drive into Israel and start taking stuff? Oh, and Israel won\’t respond, because they don\’t \”fire on civilians\”. Are you ****ing insane? Israel blows up civilians in OTHER nations (seen Lebanon lately?) but they won\’t fire on invaders looting? What?

  Get meds. All of you. A lot of meds.

• 21 Charles Wesley // Aug 10, 2006 at 4:05 am

  A pre-emtive strike on Irans nuclear assets and war making
  capabilities will temper Arab unity. Syria will be worried that
  they could be next. It goes without saying that the IDIOT-
  president of Iran should be included also. This is (war) and
  a war on ISREAL by Iran and as I understand bieng fought
  by Iranian soldiers.
  A strong NUCLEAR strike could break their backs.
  But, per EZIEKIAL chapter 38 and 39 look out for Russia.

• 22 mike james // Aug 10, 2006 at 4:21 am

  if you guys want to get all crazy and apocalyptic that’s fine. But as a 25 year old, I will be really pissed off if my time gets cut short as a result of mass hysteria created by fundies. Whether your Muslim, Jewish, Christian - it doesn’t matter. Calm down, have a drink, relax, and realize that it was our nation’s own “preemptive wasr” that has contributed to the mass instability taking place over there.

• 23 Zip ODell // Aug 10, 2006 at 6:49 am

  This is quite a bit to mull over for a person raised christian and recently converted to Judaism. I will let you know what i think on the 23rd. Be relaxed. Stay calm.

• 24 Abhi // Aug 10, 2006 at 9:42 am

  Check this out! A new interview with Prez Ahamedinejadamedinejahmed
  http://www.hindu.com/2006/08/10/stories/2006081005511100.htm
  http://www.hindu.com/2006/08/10/stories/2006081009720100.htm

• 25 Mike // Aug 10, 2006 at 4:20 pm

  Don’t fret. The world will be much better off without people anyway.

• 26 Michael // Aug 10, 2006 at 4:29 pm

  I do not believe that Iran will attack Israel on 8/22/06, I believe that Iran will attack the U.S. on that date. Our liberal policies & placating of the terrorrists has brought this about.

• 27 Dakota darlin' // Aug 10, 2006 at 6:19 pm

  I don’t think being a religious fundamental is the problem. It is the nature of what you fundamentally believe. I don’t recall Billy Graham or Pat Robertson flying jets into buildings in Tehran because of their fundamental beliefs! I have a feeling that no matter what the U.S. does, it will be looked at the wrong way by people who just don’t like us and have no respect for a democratic government. We wouldn’t be involved if there wasn’t instability in the first place. I mean, how did we provoke 9/11? By buying their oil and previous to that, giving billions of dollars in aid, helping them to develop economically, allowing their citizens to become educated in our country??? I guess if we blame ourselves for their hating us, then it seems we would have control over the situation. We could just stop doing what they don’t like. But has anyone ever dealt with a bully? You can change something and then they just find another reason to pick on you. Because the problem is not that you are imperfect–the problem is just that they are bullies and want everybody to line up with them. THEY DO NOT WANT US TO BE FRIENDS WITH ISRAEL — end of story–and because of that nothing we do will appease them. Sorry, guys but I don’t think any other country or group of people gets to dictate who our friends are. We better stand together on this one or we’ll all end up wearing berkas or getting our heads chopped off just because of who we are– not what we have done. People keep asking why moderate muslims don’t speak out more against these radical types — because they know them better than we do and understand there would be swift retaliation. This is not the time to relax but to wake up.. whether something happens on 8/22 or not, we are in a war much bigger than Iraq or even what’s going on at the Israel/Lebanon border. We’re in a war to preserve the right to be WHO WE ARE and we need the same kind of unity,purpose and self-sacrifice as our founding fathers had a couple hundred years ago because these tyrants are a heck of a lot worse than what they faced.

• 28 Bill // Aug 11, 2006 at 12:56 am

  It is not difficult to believe all clues should be used to solve these mysteries before they occur.

• 29 Charles Wesley // Aug 11, 2006 at 1:40 am

  Greetings Dakota,
  My earlier comments may have seemed harsh and a bit radical .I can say that my wife and myself are Christian
  and believe that GOD only controls the events of Isreal.
  To understand fully the seriousness of the issue for those
  who do not believe that we are powerless to resolve this
  matter,please research the following internet sites;
  DAJJAL, GOGand MAGOG and JESUS and Islam .

  “Surely I Come Quickly”

• 30 Chris // Aug 11, 2006 at 2:17 am

  Mat 24:36 “But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only.

  The bible is clear that no one knows when the world is coming to an end. With that said, I am a Christian and all the Islam talk is interesting; however, God said, “Deu 30:19 I call heaven and earth to witness against you this day, that I have set before thee life and death, the blessing and the curse; therefore choose life, that thou mayest live, thou and thy seed”

  The point is that God allowed his permisive will to choose Him or some other idol. Choosing some other idol leads to eternal damnation. Choosing God, known as Yahweh, through the blood sacrifice of Jesus (Yeshua) and believing is the only way to eternal salvation. I don’t pray for the world, but I pray that God’s will……will be done.

  In Christ
  Chris

• 31 Charles Wesley // Aug 11, 2006 at 3:15 am

  Greetings,
  Check out the sites I have found for a better understanding
  of the Islamic view of events to come soon! These sites
  include; (Dajjal, Gog and Magog and Islam and JESUS.

  The koran to some extent mirrors the BIBLE concerning the
  prophesy of Ezekiel 38 and 39.Only GOD will control the
  events to come,but I sure see this thing snowballing to an
  abrupt entry into Tribulation.

• 32 kelly Alford, godless heathen // Aug 11, 2006 at 5:27 am

  If the “anti christ” is to be the flip side of “christ”, would it not stand to reason that mohammed, being a man of the sword, as opposed to jesus, a man of love and piece, is the anti- christ? Have the past centuries from mohammed’s death been the tribulation? maybe we are at the verge of the reighn of piece with comming of another, or the jewish mesiah? whether you have faith or are a godless heathan such as myself, you have to hope for the final defeat of the islamic people that are the scorge of our earth.

• 33 Michael // Aug 11, 2006 at 5:45 am

  One thing is for sure, when this is all over war & hatred will be a thing of the past. We will inherit an earth of perfection, living in peace & harmony with a government free from corruption.

• 34 Dakota darlin' // Aug 11, 2006 at 6:14 am

  Kelly, what an interesting way to look at things. For a “godless heahen” you have given this a lot of thought. If we were only basing the tribulation on the appearance of the anti-Christ you could be right. But people like myself believe in the completely literal interpretation of the Bible and it tells us there are other things that need to be present or already accomplished when the anti-Christ comes on the scene, such as Israel becoming a nation again, having her language restored, Jewish people returning from all parts of the planet back to Jerusalem, a peace treaty for Israel that goes wrong, etc. None of these coincided with the appearance of Mohammed about 6-700 AD, I think. But you are very correct in recognizing an anti-Christ spirit to Mohammed. One of the really interesting things of the Bible is that it always gives us “foreshadows” or mini-vesions of big events prophesized–I guess so we can catch on to the pattern and then be able to recognize the big event that God wants us to see. This happened even before Jesus. Very often when God sent someone as a redeemer or deliverer of His people in Old Testament times, the person’s name was a version of “Jesus”, like Joshua, Hosea, etc. Now, i believe Mohammed is certainly a foreshadow of the anti-Christ — he sure fits a lot of the description for the A-C. I bet if you think about it you can probably come up with other examples throughout history.– Men who wanted to rule the world, eliminate Jews, and have occult powers or interested in the occult. The Bible does tell us that many of the Islamic nations will be wiped out (Syria is probably one–The Bible says Damascus will become a “heap” and after that it’s never mentioned in Scripture again). And in many places like in Psalm 83, Book of Ezekiel, etc., it actually names the nations who in the final days go against Israel. Did you happen to see on the news last week where a 1000 year old book of psalms was found buried in the bog in Ireland, perfectly preserved,already opened to Psalm 83? This psalm could practically be describing everything happening in Israel today, actually saying Tyre, Lebanon, Gaza, Assyria etc.plotting against Israel. I hope you will continue to think about these things and see how God fits in to the equation.*** PS to Charles Wesley–thank you for those sites, I will certainly look them up.

• 35 Mike // Aug 11, 2006 at 4:04 pm

  I’ve seen what supposed to be photos of the Psalms unearthed recently in Ireland. If the photos I’ve seen are legitimate, they show the book as it sits in the ground, not yet completely excavated and the book is closed. Sounds like someone is sensationalizing again which just contributes to all the histeria.
  Ever thought that all these prophetic postulations are just fantacy, evolved from ideas created in the mind eons ago as a reaction to the fears felt when fire rained down from above (lightening), fire welled up from below (volcanoes), water fell from the sky and washed everything away (rain), and the earth moved in horrifying ways (earthquakes)?
  Ego is ever fearful and can’t admit to its part in the present situation much less that its part is 100%. My way versus your way, my religion versus your religion, my God versus your God! My, my, my. The world as we find it now was created by the ego gone mad but it is not real and the illusion will not survive. As the ego goes so goes its creations, ever fearful yet self destructive, fulfilling its own prophecy about itself created by itself. Governments will fall, religions will fail, species will become extinct and new ones will emerge and the cycle will continue. To get a glimpse of what is real, go out and spend time with nature. Meet her on her own terms for at least 2 weeks away from the comforts and conveniences and things that bring us security and you will start to get a glimpse of what is real. You will be frightened and you will come to see that nature doesn’t give a dime for our institutions, our politics or our religions. You may just get an idea that the god of our religious institutions really isn’t God after all but another perverted manifestation of our ego.
  Yes we are going through a great tribulation, birth pains as Condoleezza Rice would say, but not in the way she meant it, not the birthing of a new politic in the Middle East, but the birthing of a new age in which our view of ourselves as spirit may emerge further and take the upper hand as ego self destructs.

• 36 Jenna // Aug 11, 2006 at 5:57 pm

  Mike, as a Christian, I believe in the prophecies of the Bible, because they have all come true. Here is one for your viewing pleasure:

  “He was despised and rejected by men, a man of sorrows, and familiar with suffering. Like one from whom men hide their faces he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
  Surely he took up our infirmities and carried our sorrows, yet we considered him stricken by God, smitten by him, and afflicted.
  But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was upon him, and by his wounds we are healed.” Isaiah 53

  Quite obviously, Isaiah is speaking of Jesus. That is but one prophecy (a mighty big one, by the way) that came true. As a follower of Jesus, I am bound, daily, to squash my ego, and humble myself. As Philippians 2:3 says, “Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit, but in humility consider others better than yourself.”
  I think the reason you’re reading “hysteria” in all of these posts is because most people know that something is coming. The world is heating up…can’t you feel it? Something in your soul is stirring, and you can’t name it, but you know it’s there, nonetheless. Some people get “hysterical” because they can’t identify it. I choose to trust God.
  By the way, I am an avid outdoorswoman, and think that God’s greatest cathedral can be viewed from the top of Cadillac Mountain in Acadia National Park, Maine, on a sunny day. God is in nature. God is in everything, because He is the creator. I urge you to go out into some secluded forest sometime, and let your heart speak to God. In the silence, allow yourself to hear His answer. It may surprise you, if you just give it a chance.
  In Christ’s Love, Jenna

• 37 Dakota darlin' // Aug 11, 2006 at 7:25 pm

  Hey, Mike, tell me who decides what Nature’s “own terms” are? Who speaks for her? What if someone believes she is saying one thing and that interferes with what someone else is hearing??? Gosh, does she have a manual to help us sort it all out or will our selfish nature suddenly change and we will all, as the Bible says, “defer one to another to pursue peace”? Only joking around, so hope you’re not offended. Figure you’re open-minded or you wouldn’t be putting your ideas out there. I think I may agree with you in one area: people do screw up and will attach their own agenda onto anything, including Naure! That’s why I am happy that I do have a “manual” to rely on instead of my own selfish ways to lead me. But, regardless of my own beliefs I just can’t go with all religions being equal even should they all be man-made. A mormon or animist may try to convince you to think like them but I’ve yet to hear of one trying to blow you up if you didn’t! Even History will tell you that the Christian crusades occured when scripture (the manual) was withheld from the masses. Once people read the Bible for themselves instead of having it “interpreted” by politically motivated clerics, they realized that overtaking by the sword was actually opposed to their religion. (Jesus said my kingdom is NOT of this world) You can look back and clearly see a difference between “Christians” who looked to the Bible as the authority and “Christians” who rely more on their traditions and human wisdom. Today, you might find a Bible-toter to be obnoxious but chances are he probably won’t try to kill you over that fact. Now, about the psalms book discovery, who knows for sure — to be certain i’ve not always found CNN to tell the whole truth. But having spent a little time at the Harvard Semitic Museum and exploring some digs, I can tell you that the museum authorities would have told the book’s discover to leave it right where it was found, probably even to re-cover it with the soil. This would be typical and safest until it was transported –still in the soil - and examined in possibly an airless chamber. Also, books at that time would often have two covers, a heavy leather outer cover (sort of like a book jacket but with a clasp or ties), and the inner cover of a more delicate material. The inner book could be a scroll or even loosely secured sheaves and kept opened or folded to any place but still protected by the closed, thick outer cover. My guess is that what you saw would be the protective leather cover. And really I don’t see any hysteria about end times from Christians who are familiar with the Bible–most of us are just thrilled that God is allowing us to see prophecies we’ve read about for years to finally be revealed, while at the same time being appalled at the ruthlessness of mankind. Now people who don’t know how it will all work out do seem pretty scared, and I can sure understand that. In fact, that would be wise..there has NEVER to this degree been a potential for one part of humanity to completely oppress another or to destroy us altogether. A little different from days of just swords and guns or hiding in a cave until the next dictator would come along. Hey, Mike, you know earlier you actually made me remember one of the prophetic scriptures, I think it’s from the Book of Romans:.. “Instead of believing what they knew was the truth about God, they deliberately chose to believe lies. So they loved and worshiped the things God made but not the Creator himself..” Sounds like maybe there was a God who actually knew in advance how people like you might be thinking in these days! God bless, you, Mike and keep thinking…

• 38 Jack Barnes // Aug 11, 2006 at 8:40 pm

  I think they took Septerber 11 and added 1 to each number. Opps that would be October 22. Oh well, no one ever said they were smart.

• 39 Mike // Aug 11, 2006 at 9:47 pm

  Thanks for the replies. Dialog is good. Is there a single reference or checklist of sorts that lists all the biblical prophecies and the ones that have come true (and when) and those yet to be fulfilled? Also, are there any that have been inaccurate or just plain wrong? I’m very curious about learning what the hard indisputible facts are. Is there a source that can provide this as information without the fog of dogma?

• 40 Dakota darlin' // Aug 11, 2006 at 10:43 pm

  Mike, www.100prophecies.org is a website that takes 100 of the prophecies that are probably most relevant today and it gives the pertinent Bible scripture and then the timeframe and some of the circumstances of its fulfillment. There is also a pamphlet called 100 Prophecies Fulfilled — I think about $4. I’ve seen it different places but I know you can buy it online at /www.calvaryftl.org/Bookstore. If you are actually interested in something more in depth, two books that I think are very objectively written (not pushed by any particular denomination) are “More than a Carpenter” by Josh McDowell and “The Case for Christ” by Lee Stroebel. Lee was formely the City Desk Editor for the Chicago Tribune and, like McDowell, was not a Christian when he began his search for truth. I think both could easily be purchased from Amazon, Ebay or elsewhere and probably not too expensive. They might be in the library, also. And you’re right, dialog is good: Book of Isaiah, chapter 1: “Come now, and let us reason together,” Says the Lord..–.Even the Bible agrees!

• 41 Ken // Aug 11, 2006 at 11:20 pm

  “For the foolishness of God is wiser than man’s wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than man’s strength.” (I Corinthian 1:25) The wisdom of the world does not make us intelligent before God. “We know that we all possess knowledge. Knowledge puffs up, but love builds up. The man who thinks he knows something does not yet know as he ought to know.” (I Corinthians 8:1)

  Forgive me for my lack of partisanship, but I really don’t think that God plays favorites nor is he into such petty religious politics. All of that is the work of man. Men have twisted the God’s word since it was proclaimed as the word of God to profit themselves and always at the expense of others; justifying mental and sometimes physical enslavement as the Devine order. Their religious strongholds decided which writings would best suit their need to basically control people. Hence the presented ‘Word of God” and the Apocrypha (Hidden, why?)… Catholicism, Orthodox and Roman, are more rooted in their politics than the teachings of Christ. They are wrought with idolatry, from the crucifix to the statues and Icons of their saints, they pray to men and woman who were tools for God’s purpose more than God. Christianity, although pure in concept, is laden with pagan rituals. The great compromise dating back to Constantinople in his quest to control a people both mono and polytheistic… The diversity of modern Christianity is further testimony to man’s personalization of Christ’s teachings to suit their own purpose (Lutheran, Wesleyan, etc). Then we have the Middle East conflict, Judism and Islam, no more than an age old sibling rivalry over who Daddy loves more. Each is the “seed”, yet one denies the other that which rightfully belongs to both… Brothers reared in separate households and conditioned to hate each other. The similarities in their religion are uncanny, only separated by cultural definitions and in my opinion, highly pharisaical in nature. Their obsession with law blinds them to the simplicity of what God really is… Love… The separation is based on selfishness as it was told. Nothing more than one mother’s desire to secure inheritance for her child over the other and their descendants have been killing each other to this day. Do you honestly believe that God/Allah is backing one against his brother, that he will welcome either without chastisement for their blasphemy? Not blasphemy in the sense of going against religion, but to use his name to justify bloodshed for their cause. These things are happening because those who were entrusted as leaders, over time, manipulated God’s word to accommodate their selfish desires. Propaganda peddles the abuses of certain men in power as definitive of their professed religion. Each book is perceived to proclaim the, post-Babel, targeted demographic as the chosen and predestined victors in the end. And the most devout, in certain circles, are joyous in their belief that the rapture cometh to spare them from the carnage that awaits those who don’t attend their church. However, at the core of all religion is the relationship between God and man, creator and the created, parent and child. I don’t see these events as the culmination of God’s Devine plan for us, more so what God foresaw in us. Blame it on the Devil or anti-Christ all you want, all excuses to avoid our own reflection, it has always been our actions that define our consequences. It’s been said that if you resist, he will flee… We will be judged for our actions alone. Instead of looking right to left, at this one or the next, we should start looking within… Learn who we really are in God, learn to see others as God sees us… Then maybe we can endure the tribulation with God’s love in our heart and towards all of his creation.

  1 Corinthians 13 1-13.

  “If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames, but have not love, I gain nothing.
  Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
  Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. For we know in part and we prophesy in part, but when perfection comes, the imperfect disappears. When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me. Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.
  And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.”

• 42 Lee Alan Norton // Aug 12, 2006 at 12:29 am

  I hope Israel has the courage and strength to take out Iran’s nuclear research and development sites before this madman gets the bomb. It will have to do the same as it did against the former Iraq nuclear development sites. Unfortunately, it looks like the U.S. and it’s European Allies lack the will to do so. Europe is afraid to do anything, due to the huge Muslim population it is know faced with in it’s own countries, caused by short sited and stupid immigration policies. God help us, but I think we are entering the final hours. It’s a battle between good and evil. The good being Judaism/Christianity and the evil being Islam. I am so tired of hearing that Islam is a peace loving religion. It’s just the opposite. By all standards it’s origin is Satanic and born out of Hell.

• 43 IAIN // Aug 12, 2006 at 12:37 am

  I confidently predict that august 22 ,2006 will come and go without incident.The ceasefire that h as been agreed tonight to end the war in the middle east proves that there will be no armageddon this month!

• 44 Dakota darlin' // Aug 12, 2006 at 1:56 am

  Well, Ken, I guess I have a little problem understanding you…you quote 1st Corinthians as though they are words with authority representing God’s true feelings but apparently you discount taking other passages literally that tell us Isaac was preferred over Ishmael and those who bless that seed will be blessed by God (and cursed by Him if they don’t). How do you decide which parts of the Bible you want to believe and which you want to take as symbolic or even fable? And how can you feel comfortable with the Bible as any kind of authority if you, in good conscience, cannot believe all of it or hold all of it up to a same standard? Wouldn’t it be like getting on a airplane and being told 60% of it was in good shape and trustworthy but then the company tells you it just can’t vouch for the other 40% — I would look at that airplane as worthless and dangerous and run! If I couldn’t believe Genesis the same as I’d believe Corinthians then no matter how pretty the words, I’d just as soon put my faith in a fortune cookie. OF COURSE GOD IS LOVE!!. And He is just as grieved at the death and misery of muslims as He is when the same are experienced by Christians, Jews and atheists. All are made in His image. But God does have His way of doing things. He has decided to make Israel’s journey to redemption a lesson for all of us. We may not like it that He uses one people over another but it’s His choice. Ken, if you give one of your kids the assignment of carrying a cake over to a neighbor and then your other child decides he would rather have that job and knocks down the first kid and grabs the cake, himself–are you telling me that it would make no difference to you and you would not see jealousy and disrespect in that second child? Come on– you love them both but that has nothing to do with the situation, does it? God gives us hard things to believe and He outright tells us that we will not understand His ways even though He tells us what He is doing. That’s the importance of taking the prophecies as important and literal. When we see a long list of unusual things coming to pass as spoken by God in the Bible, then we are likely to trust Him in the things not yet wholly understandable to us. Unfortunately God has us take stands, even if it appears unloving. I know that a cafeteria-style God that would let us pick all the warm & fluffy desserts is a lot easier to like than a God who expects us to live with discernment–like how to balance loving and even serving our enemies at times but yet buying a sword if we don’t have one (words of Jesus). There’s a lot of the Bible that I would like to toss out but I’ve learned that I can trust all of it. Plus I have to admit it is a lot easier now to believe in prophecy when the headlines start sounding as though they were written by Ezekiel or the Apostle John.

• 45 Jim // Aug 12, 2006 at 3:32 pm

  Thanks Mike. I needed that. I’ve had my meds this morning, thank you. Although it probably isn’t what you had in mind - caffeine.

  One of the many things my parents taught me was to think for myself. As my father said, no one has your best interests in mind more than yourself. As you can imagine, that has caused me great conflict with religions of all stripes.

  Somewhere along the line I picked up the notion that God does not speak in words but speaks in actions. Not sure exactly where that came from. But it then follows that all religious texts are the words of mens’ interpretations of God’s actions. It also follows that men must be motivated to perform the compilation of those words into texts. So what is the motivation?

  I am no religious scolar but have looked into several different religions and it seems to me they all have one thing in common: they require you suspend thoughtful analysis and just believe. Therein lies the conflict with my “think for yourself” philosophy. The leaders of whatever religion you want to consider are, in effect, saying “Trust me, I know about these things. You don’t have to think about it, you must just believe what I tell you.” Whew, what a relief. I don’t have to think about it. That theme seems to me to permeate all religions whether Christian, Muslim, any of the various Oriental religions, Mayan, or otherwise.

  Of course my inquiring mind says, but wait a minute - why don’t I have to think about it? What’s the motivation behind that? And to my mind, the answer is that it’s a con job perpetuated to establish a ruling class - be it priests, imams, masters - whatever. They’re going to sell me something for which they get paid now and I get the promised reward later - much later - like when I’m not around to complain about my missing everlasting life, or 23 virgins, or whatever it is.

  Don’t get me wrong. I do believe in God. I just have a problem with organized religions. My belief in God is my own and I’m not attempting to sell it to anyone. It’s something like your reference to nature but expanded and contracted infinitely.

  In regard to the topic of August 22, 2006 the fact is that we are dealing with a date that has been made into something other than just a date by an organized religious belief system. And it can be used by believers of that religious belief system to not only justify, but to initiate any conceivable action.

  The millenium date had me spooked for the same reason. Not that it had any aprticular importance but that it could be used as an excuse to justify horrendous actions. At the time there was the Arab/Isreali conflict, China and Taiwan were haggling, and India and Pakistan were saber rattling. The excuse could have been, “Ah, gosh, our clocks messed up and launched nuclear weapons. So sorry.” Didn’t happen but the possibility was there.

  August 22, 2006 is even more troublesome because any action launched on that date won’t be an accident but a religiously justifiable act - at least in the minds of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Ayatollah Ali Akbar Hashemi-Rafsanjani, etc. In fact the really, really scary thing about this is that these people may actually believe that they are obligated to fulfill some religious belief on that date.

  By the way, has anyone checked with the Mayans, Aztecs, Buddhists, Jains, Hindus, Druids, etc. on the significance of this date?

  I mean if there is something to this, I’ve got 2 weeks paid vacation I need to take before the end of the world!

• 46 669 // Aug 12, 2006 at 3:40 pm

  8226 both Israel and United States will be engulfed in fire. It will be the beginning of the end for all life on this planet. Time to start over.

• 47 Dakota darlin' // Aug 12, 2006 at 6:14 pm

  I don’t believe Aug. 22 is a date of destiny written in stone or chosen by God. But it is an important date to a group of people who may try to stir up events so as to give credence to their beliefs. The only dates I would believe would be in the Bible but it doesn’t give dates and says we aren’t even suppose to want dates. God just mentions circumstances that will come about (without our help, thank you!) just to let us know that He’s on top of things and in charge no matter how scary things may look to us.
  I’ve heard that President Ahmadine-wackjob of Iran said in a recent forum of other muslim leaders that it is up to them to bring about the circumstances of violence and chaos that need to occur before this hidden mystical 12th iman can come out of his hole and predict 6 more weeks of winter — oh wait a min.., I’m mixing up my fables. But, how sad…really. If this 12th Iman is so powerful why would he need anyone else to set the stage for him. This particular brand of islam seems no different to me than a simple guy in a remote jungle who takes a piece of wood, carves an image with his own hands and then bows down to worship it. I personally like a God bigger than I can invent and has no need of my feeble help.

• 48 Smitty // Aug 12, 2006 at 10:40 pm

  All of this with a total nut job from puppet taking his signals from a totally crazy madman trying to bring about the end of the world, at least those who live in the 7th century. Sorry guys but hiding behind women and children doesn’t cut it. Placing launch sites then building schools and hospitals over them to get a liberal press sympathy is lame at the least.

  Hitler wanted German to breed a new master race. The same seems to be true in Iran, except Hitler wasn’t planning on sending his little little master race out and about to blow up civilians…

  Anyhow if the cleric running Iran were a real man and not a pig kissing coward, yes, you read it right I said a PIG, then he would try to work it out. I can also understand that if the people of Ishmeal are this radical about losing God’s favor, then God was correct in choosing Issac to be the head of Gods chosen people.

  By the way, some baby back ribs would really be great about now. Also a carry out order for the president of Iran, with some slaw on the side…

• 49 Smitty // Aug 13, 2006 at 1:10 am

  On Aug 22, should the dim witted president and his masters decide to detonate a nuke, especially in the holiest city of both Judisam and Isalm, attempting to cause a light brighter than that which their hero was taken to Haven would do nothing more than to provoke a response like that hasn’t been seen since 1945, but larger. Turn Iran into a glass factory. Next stop Moscow then onto Bejing. N Korea should be on the list. BUT, I don’t think it will happen. Then again I think God will start again but with a better plan then this science experiment that went ary.

  According to the book, since I’m a CHRISTIAN, that’s the Bible, what’s going to happen is already goint to happen. I just hope when it’s my turn in line at the gates that God is in a good mood.

• 50 L Martin // Aug 13, 2006 at 1:18 am

  Does anyone realize that when you take the date 8-22-06 and add the numbers together your come up with 18. You then add 1 + 8 to get a sum of 9. There was 11 egyptians missing in the United States. This, 9-11!

• 51 Hundred to one // Aug 13, 2006 at 3:08 am

  Iran has another reason for choosing August 22:

  He asserts that the Supreme National Security Council of Iran chose the August 22 date “for a very precise reason. August 21, 2006 (Rajab 27, 1427) is known in the Islamic calendar as the Night of the Sira’a and Miira’aj, the night Prophet Mohammed (saas) ascended to heaven from the Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem on a Bourak (Half animal, half man), while a great light lit-up the night sky, and visited Heaven and Hell also Beit al-Saada and Beit al-Shaqaa (House of Happiness and House of Misery) and then descended back to Mecca.…”

  The Night Journey, or Miraj, is central to Islam’s claim to Jerusalem as an Islamic holy city. According to Islamic tradition, Muhammad was carried on a Buraq, a miraculous horse with a human head, from Mecca to Jerusalem, where he ascended into heaven and met the other prophets. The only thing the Qur’an has to say about it is this: “Glory to (Allah) Who did take His servant for a Journey by night from the Sacred Mosque to the farthest Mosque, whose precincts We did bless, in order that We might show him some of Our Signs: for He is the One Who heareth and seeth (all things)” (17:1). There is no identification of the “farthest Mosque” with any mosque in Jerusalem in this, but the Hadith is very clear on the identification of its location with Jerusalem.

  The traditions say that Muhammad and the Buraq, along with the angel Gabriel, went to the Temple Mount, and from there to heaven itself, where Muhammad encountered various prophets. In the sixth heaven was Moses, occasioning a dig at the Jews. “When I left him,” Muhammad says, “he wept. Someone asked him, ‘What makes you weep?’ Moses said, ‘I weep because after me there has been sent (Muhammad as a Prophet) a young man, whose followers will enter Paradise in greater numbers than my followers.’”

  Evidently, however, Muhammad’s stories of his journey were not altogether convincing: even some of the Muslims abandoned their faith and challenged Muhammad’s most faithful follower, Abu Bakr, to do the same. Abu Bakr was contemptuous: “If he says so then it is true. And what is so surprising in that? He tells me that communications from God from heaven to earth come to him in an hour of a day or night and I believe him, and that is more extraordinary than that at which you boggle!” The world has continued to witness such unshakeable devotion from Muslims to this day.

  Did Muhammad really go anywhere? According to his favorite wife, Aisha, he did not: “The apostle’s body remained where it was but God removed his spirit by night.” Nevertheless, the Night Journey has become firmly embedded in the Islamic consciousness, such that Muslims today celebrate it as one of the central events of Muhammad’s life. And now, according to Ghadry, Ahmadinejad is planning an illumination of the night sky over Jerusalem to rival the one that greeted the Prophet of Islam on his journey. What the Iranian President, he says, is “promising the world by August 22 is the light in the sky over the Aqsa Mosque that took place the night before. That is his answer to the package of incentives the international community offered Iran on June 6.”

  Certainly a nuclear attack on Jerusalem or even an all-out conventional assault against Israel by Iran would be consistent with Ahmadinejad’s oft-repeated denials of Israel’s right to exist and recent predictions that its demise was at hand. He hinted at the use of nuclear weapons in his phrasing when he said that Israel “pushed the button of its own destruction” by finally retaliating against Hizballah’s relentless rocket barrage from south Lebanon.

  http://armageddoncocktailhour.wordpress.com/tag/biblical-prophecy/

  OHH OHH…HA HA HA…
  …Flying Moose

• 52 Dakota darlin' // Aug 13, 2006 at 7:08 am

  Need to clarify two things: Allah is not God and Christians do not teach that we are at the end of the world!
  For Jim and anybody else who is mistakenly lumping Christians with those who think this is the end of the world, the Bible absolutely teaches that it is not — although many of us do believe that we ARE near what is called the Great Tribulation — A short period of time where God finally satisfies those who would rather run things without Him so removes Himself from the scene except for helping those who have specifically asked Him for help. This occurs after He first removes those who decided to place their trust in Him BEFORE this tribulation begins –this is referred to as the “rapture”–although some of us do have different opinions as to specifically when and what form this will take. It may be confusing to people because we often refer to “the end times”, we mean the end of things as they have been but not the actual end of time. We believe in at least another 1,000 years after the tribulation period ends. Oh, by the way, Jim, I think it’s safe to say that Christians who believe that the Bible is the inerrant Word of God and is to be taken literally DO NOT see Allah and God as one. The Divinity that Christians and Jews refer to as God is Yahweh, the only God, the Ancient of Days. The personality of Allah as reported by Mohammed is quite different. Mo does say Allah is the only God, but the things he reports Allah as saying and doing really have much more in common with the most popular idols of ancient Middle Eastern culture. If you recall, even the Bible makes mention of the “crescent” shaped ornaments carried about by idolaters. The crescent, even now, being the dominant symbol of islam as the cross and menorrah are for judeo-christianity. In the qu’ran Allah, in fact, says a lot of stuff that is completely opposite of things spoken by the God of the Bible. This is easy to check out. I heard a woman who is a devout muslim but currently studying the Bible say it is getting harder for her to reconcile Allah with the Biblical God. She said Allah is much more capricious–several times more or less saying he does things for no reason except that he can-and there is never any reasoning with Allah, whereas the Bible reports God as actually inviting us to reason with Him and actually saying He considers our desires when determining His will. But she said, as a muslim, the first thing that stands out with the Bibllical God is that He seems so interested in having relationships with people, even pursuing them. This is not how Allah operates, He blesses and curses but generally dealing with people as a whole rather than person to person and he judges by behavior. Whereas the God of the Bible is always judging by what’s in the heart rather than the external actions.

• 53 azad // Aug 13, 2006 at 10:28 am

  on aug 22 iran will announce that iranian scientists have invented a pill that increases the iq of a person by 20 points and ahmedinejad will write a letter to bush and say that they are more than willing it to test it on the dumbest people living on earth so called the americans.

  are you people really aware of how dumb you are?

• 54 Smitty // Aug 13, 2006 at 1:06 pm

  azad. If this pill theory is correct then shouldn’t those who first ingest it should be the pres of Iran and his puppet masters. Also if this is prophesy it will happen without help from a crazy person.

  I have faith that God who has been constant throughout the ages will continue to do what is right.

  We are in a time of false prophets and the Iranians, as Persians, who are pulling the strings of the Arabs are no less false prophets then many of those on television and radio. It seems as though the stories of Muhmmad mimmic those of God’s own words from the Old Testiment from the Bible.

  Smitty

• 55 Jayna Dinnyes // Aug 13, 2006 at 5:15 pm

  Shalom! Greetings in the saving Name of Yahshua the Messiah and Son of Yahweh. Blessed be Their Names! We are counseled to “watch and pray”. The most important thing about 8 - 22 - 06 is that it is on one of Yahweh’s “appointed times”, the beginning of His month, “a new moon”.
  Ezekiel 38 & 39 termed “The Northern Attack” will be against Israel AND the U.S.Millions more Jewish people live here in this country!. Through prayerful study we believe that Psalm 91 is also about this attack. When it is “noon” in Israel it is dark over all of the U.S. Those who truely believe in Yahweh and His Son Yahshua will even survive this! The important question is: Do you?
  Please choose to believe in Them today!

  The Faith of Yahshua
  Janos and Jayna Dinnyes
  P.O. Box 9932
  Fountain Valley, CA 92728

• 56 W A Roberson // Aug 13, 2006 at 9:12 pm

  Here’s the way I see it going down……..On 8-22, Iran will attack Israel and the US, then the US and Israel will retaliate. Thus, causing the beginning of W W III. And then, when it is all over with, the Freemasons and the Illuminati will rule the world. At least that is what the conspiracy theorists are telling me!

• 57 Charles Wesley // Aug 13, 2006 at 11:16 pm

  Here is how I see it.
  The war will escalate despite all attempts to stop it.As the war progresses Israel is about to be over taken and might use some neutron bombs in defense.Russia will move to act as a pease keeping forceon Israelie soil.The rest is also in the Bible

• 58 Smitty // Aug 14, 2006 at 1:04 am

  So what’s everybody doing labor day weekend.

  According to y’all I don’t suppose this would be a good time to put our house on the market. I also had better stop by Pierce’s BBQ in Williamsburg for some truly great pulled pork BBQ, super sauce. Maybe this week I should cash in my IRA, as according to all of you I won’t need it.

  How is it that all of you supposed know it alls seem to think you know what will happen and when. God has yet to tell any of the human race when the end will take place. So why should I believe any of you.

  This may be the beginning of the end as in one of the 7 seals may be broken, but not the end of time… It seems satan has a real friend in Iran. If what will happen actually does happen then so be it. I have faith in God and his Son Jesus Christ who came into this world as a person of peace and love. The Bible says that we Christians should be ready with the armour
  of Gods love and protection. So I am one of Gods Christian Soldiers. I am willing to die for my faith in Jesus, but not to murder innocents by blowing myself and others up.

  I’ve read some of these posts quoting Moses, within the Islamic context. Wow, I guess they realize that Moses was Hebrew, so the Islamic faith derives many of it’s stories brom the Hebrew faith? That being the Jewish faith. So then why would the Islams want to kill their own brothers??? That’s one for the ages.

  You Islamics who read this, should Christmas, Jesus birth- God in the flesh, arrive on it’s designated day of Dec 25th. Will you hold your breath until you pop. Please realize you are being led into eternal damnation by your false profits. It’s not too late. Make up your minds and convert to Jesus, the bread of life before it really gets hot for you. What a sad waste of a human being to be so consumed by hate and the lies you are being told. Believe me your soul in the devils, aka, MIchael the fallen angel is hoping for your soul so he can add up bodies before he is commited to Hell for all etermity. The future is already known and written. He wants to take as many of you believers of the wrong creed as he can. But why him??

  May God and Jesus blessings come upon you, this day.

• 59 Jayna Dinnyes // Aug 14, 2006 at 2:33 am

  Peaceful greetings again in the saving Name of Yahshua! The truth is in the Bible but sadly not much of it is being taught today. There is NOT an ever lasting burning hell! There is a “Lake of Fire” where those who reject salvation are “burned up”. When we die, we “sleep” (as Yahshua taught when He raised Lazarus from the dead). The righteous dead will come alive when Yahshua returns. (The First resurrection) The wicked do not live again until after the 1000 year millenium when The New Yahrushalom comes to earth. They will be raised to receive their judgement and are destroyed as they (under the evil one’s leadership) try to attack The New Yahrushalom. There is not a pretrib or midtrib rapture according to Scripture. There is a “Sealing” , Revelation 14, which provides protection. Will you have it? We pray that you will!
  By the way, this you may not have heard before.
  The name J-s C-t comes from the number 666 in the Greek. It is a number as well as a name. One of the letters is called a “hex” and is an abbreviation for C-t as in Xmas. Get a Greek Diaglott (actual Greek translation of the New Testament) and check this out for yourselves! Blessings as you seek the truth!

  The Faith of Yahshua
  P.O. Box 9932
  Fountain Valley, CA 92728

• 60 Carpe Diem » شایعه احمقانه 22 آگوست // Aug 14, 2006 at 2:56 pm

  […] کافیه در گوگل عبارت "August ۲۲, ۲۰۰۶" iran جستجو کنید تا ببینید چطور رسانه‌های غربی و اسرائیلی آرماگدون ایرانی را پیش‌بینی کرده‌اند. […]

• 61 Smitty // Aug 14, 2006 at 5:43 pm

  To Carpe Diem.

  Could you please offer a translation in English? I have no understanding of what you have written…

  Thank you.

• 62 Watty // Aug 14, 2006 at 10:28 pm

  The single most important question you will EVER ask yourself and answer in your life is:

  Was Jesus Christ really who he said he was?

  It is as simple as that!

• 63 Smitty // Aug 15, 2006 at 3:23 am

  Yes he was!

  No doubt.

• 64 Chris // Aug 15, 2006 at 3:32 am

  I find much of the comments bothersome, but I agree with some on this board. There is only one God. God never changes; however, man does change. Science is a good place to start. If we read one of the oldest books, Job ( Job 26:7 He stretcheth out the north over the empty space, and hangeth the earth over nothing)……we find that God told him the Earth is suspended. If we read Isaiah (Isa 40:22 It is He that sitteth above the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in;) we find that the Earth is a sphere, unlike what many mythologies teach. In 1492 people thought the Earth was flat! Of course, people today know from pictures of the Earth that these biblical facts are true, whether they recognize God’s word or not. God created the world. It’s amazing that all we have to do is read the Bible for ABSOLUTE TRUTH.

  A good place to start reading in the bible would be in Acts, after Saul’s conversion. There we can learn about his “religious zeal”. Religion doesn’t save you. Only the blood of Jesus can save you, if you believe in Him. There is no such savior in Allah. Allah changes and in the world of Islam, a Muslims faith is based on the scales. When a Muslim dies, he or she has to hope that their good outweighs their bad and the only possibility that their heaven awaits is martydom. Christ doesn’t teach hatred and disrepect of life. A good book to read about religions is “When Worldviews Collide”. http://www.erguncaner.com/new/
  This man was a Muslim and can speak from experience.

  The law never saved anybody and if you try to live by the law you will go to hell. Yes, the law is good and it is written on man’s heart, but without Jesus we are nothing. It makes no difference in the eyes of God if I sin for 30seconds and you sin for 5 years. Whose sin is worse? Doesn’t matter! We are GUILTY. Nor is there a free license to sin. It is called disobedience. If we believe in Jesus, we are conformed to His likeness. Over time you will mature. We are sinners, but we grow through Jesus, none other.

  An excellent book to read is “What every Christian ought to Know”, written by the late Adrian Rogers. Some commentaries and such reveal a very dogmatic persona from the writer, but I know that anyone at any level of Christianity or someone with questions about Christianity will enjoy the insightfulness of this book. With so many denominations/divisions and such and doctrine, I can understand what may confuse or turn people away from the Lord, but this book will be a great help to anyone wanting to mature in Christianity.

  Finally, there is more than a lifetime of reading and re-reading the scriptures. There is not enough time nor space to write on life-changing matters. I do want to say that I’m not out to attack anyone verbally. Let it be known that God said……It is written…………………….

  In Christ
  Chris

• 65 Rose // Aug 15, 2006 at 4:53 am

  Christ said if you want to determine if the fruit of the tree is good than you must examine the root structure of the tree. The root structure of the tree of the Jew God, is loaded with inconsistencies and cruelties. But the words of Christ are good and honest. The words of Buddha are good. The words of Mohammend are good. The words of Ghandi are good. All have achieved enlightenment. It is the words of men attempting to rule the masses utilizing people’s beliefs that are evil. These prophets have been ‘used against one another’ and in return we have had religions used against one another and made us think that we are not one with ALL. We all come from ONE SOURCE and we were not created to kill our brothers and sisters and we should refuse believing that we should. There was a purpose to our being placed here on earth. The Source of ALL CREATION put us here to evolve the consciousness that we are ONE. To kill our enemies is to attack our own body. It is like your spleen trying to kill our appendix. GOD IS LOVE> JUDGE NOT LEAST Ye be JUDGED. Anytime any man is suffering and raises in hands in supplication and prayer for his sick child, he reaches the Creator. Evolve your consciousness and connect with all. That is the purpose of life. Not to draw sides against ourselves.

• 66 Mary Lynne // Aug 15, 2006 at 5:44 pm

  Hey, I’m flying from NY to California at 6:30 pm on Aug. 22nd. Should I be worried, or will the end of the world have already happened, as it will already be the 23rd in Iran?

  Just wondering…seriously.

• 67 Dakota darlin' // Aug 15, 2006 at 7:35 pm

  Rose, you say the root of the Jew-God is filled with inconsisencies. I have to make the assumption that the “root” you refer to has got to be the Bible, since scripture is the only record I know giving the Jewish God’s words and actions.
  That being the case, once I might have agreed with you because for years I pretended I had read the whole Bible when truthfully I was mostly going by what others said. But I finally did read and meditate on it for myself and I can honestly tell you that I do not now see any inconsistencies. If you feel you do, then please share the scripture or concept that troubles you and maybe I or others here can help clarify it or at least point out something that maybe you missed before–that is, if you are open.
  Of course, I am making another assumption that you have read the Bible and have actually come to an honest conclusion of what you believe.
  But getting back to inconsistencies: You quote Jesus to make your point but then apparently reject everything else he says–and is. After all, the same Book that tells us Jesus said good fruit would only come from good roots, also reports that he said he was the fulfillment of the law. The law in the Old Testament IS the root of the Jewish-Christian faiths today. He didn’t come saying everything was all wrong before him. Jesus also says he was the son of the Jewish God and that he and his Father are one). So you say the roots of the Jewish God are bad– inconsistent and cruel — but then you say Jesus’s words which he says spring from the the same roots are good. This doesn’t make sense to me.
  You say the prophets’ words are all good. But the Bible says believers are not to lie or fool people. In fact, Jesus says the father of lies is the devil, himself. Yet Mohammed actually exalts times where he gave his word about seeking a truce, gets the enemy to believe him and then when they think they are at peace he swoops down and attacks them. Is this good?
  And take the concept of vengeance. The Bible says even though we can defend ourselves we must leave vengeance to the Lord. Oh my!! A little research will show the Bible and qu’ran’s words are miles apart on that. Jesus also said it’s appointed for a man to die but once (not one life after another). Buddha and Gandhi would have some things in common with Jesus but their words on this concept would be completely contradictory. So would all their words be good even if some are not the truth? Doesn’t something have to truthful in order to be good? If Jesus or Buddha or Gandhi misleads us with his words are they still good words. Rose, do you actually believe that two things which are completely opposite can both be true? Would the Creator actually allow that, I mean wouldn’t life be pretty confusing for us if that were the case? I have to think that the Creator would want us to get along, so wouldn’t that be rather of cruel of him to expect us to pursue peace when he would know that one person’s peace is completely violated by the thought of someone else living in complete opposition to the way he lives? Doesn’t it make sense that there has to be one consistent standard–What God says– and that some people will hear it and agree and some won’t and that will cause friction? Sorry, Rose, but the fact is, some people are right and some people are wrong. There can’t be two truths. The only consistent standard I see is the Bible.

• 68 Chert // Aug 15, 2006 at 9:41 pm

  Fact is, religion, true religion, doesn’t play a part in whether our fears for August 22nd occur or not. Not unless God intervenes. It’s just that the president of Iran wants to be a player in the “end times.” That’s what’s scary. It may not be God’s “time,” but Ahmadinejad can cause a whole lot of heartache because, let’s face it, he’s nuts. Sadly, a lot of people think the way he does. God is just watching, wondering what in the world we are doing to ourselves. Interesting debates and discussions. Good reading. I do wish for the translation to the one Arabic post, however.

• 69 Leslie // Aug 15, 2006 at 9:43 pm

  I have read all the comments from all of you and I think what is supposed to happen will happen. There is absolutely nothing we can do about it. Don’t be afraid of what you are doing on Aug 22. Go about your daily life. If you are happy with the way you have been living your life then it shouldn’t bother you. I hate all the fighting and blood shed as much as anyone but it is all according to God’s plan for us. Israel became a nation again back in the1940’s. According to the Parable of the Fig Tree, the end of days will not be more than a generation later(100yrs?). Everyone relax and let’s see what happens.

• 70 Charles Wesley // Aug 15, 2006 at 11:34 pm

  When JESUS said this generation shall not pass till all these things be fulfilled, I believe refered to the life time of that generation. GOD said man would live three score and ten years. If so then some where around 2018 or before!
  Have a blessed day.

• 71 Dakota darlin' // Aug 16, 2006 at 1:57 am

  Mary Lynne,
  Remember that when August 22nd begins in the mid-East it is still the 21st in the States. I may be traveling myself that day even though I realize we’re in a tiime where there is potential for great calamity (like the recent airline scare, train bombing in Bombay, last year’s 7/7 London train bombings. etc.).
  But even if something awful happens on 8/22 it will not be the end of the world! The Bible doesn’t teach it and even President Ahmadinejad of Iran doesn’t believe that. But he does believe that there needs to be jihad (holy war) against infidels (non-Islamics) and the world in chaos as the condition for the mystical 12th Iman to appear (a Shi’ite messiah, so to speak) who’ll convert us all and set the world straight–and apparently Ahmadinejad believes his destiny is to set that up at some point. Based on his own comments, something like a 9/11 could happen …and at any time. And any of us could be a victim of such an event.
  But MaryLynne, the truth is this: for every person on earth, ETERNITY IS ALWAYS JUST A HEARTBEAT AWAY AT ANY TIME! Take a moment to consider this fact. I’m not fearful about 8/22 or any other day because I know what awaits me when I die.
  Are you confident about where you will spend eternity? If you’re not a believer, do you have proof that life will be over and there will be nothing more to your existence once you die? Or if you believe in God do you know for certain that you have been “good enough” to enter into His presence and not into some place of separation from Him with endless remorse and loneliness? Do you have absolute proof that if you’ve blown it in this lifetime you’ll get a second chance? Is it safe to look at eternity with a ho-hum attitude or is it arrogance? (Forever is a long time to be sorry about a choice made lightly.)
  If you know any Bible-believing Christians you may have heard them say something to the effect “that this world is not our home”. It may sound a little goofy because we do treasure our lives here but most important to us is what comes next.
  The reason I’m not scared is because I have NOT put my faith in the fact that I am a pretty good person or feel good about myself. I just finally came to an understanding of what Jesus Christ accomplished on the cross. I used to dismiss the “Jesus Saves” stuff because I just didn’t “get it” for so many years. But one day I just let go of my pride and said “God if you’re there and this Jesus stuff is real you’ll have to help me understand it. ” And you know, He did. Once I was open to Him and not just trying to argue my own point of view, I began to see what the truth was and that Jesus really was the only way to get out of this world alive.
  You know, Christianity is the only belief system that has hundreds of prophecies recorded in one book so that we can check up on the truthfulness of what it says. God has asked us to believe in faith that Jesus needed to live and die for us– but He has given us plenty of evidence to help us believe that fact– if we are humble enough to really consider it! I pray that anyone reading this will have a respectful talk with God and ask Him to show them what is truth. Once He does fthat for any of you you will no longer have the choice of either living in Fear or in Denial.

• 72 Gina // Aug 16, 2006 at 3:31 am

  1 2 You who dwell in the shelter of the Most High, who abide in the shadow of the Almighty,
  2
  Say to the LORD, “My refuge and fortress, my God in whom I trust.”
  3
  God will rescue you from the fowler’s snare, from the destroying plague,
  4
  Will shelter you with pinions, spread wings that you may take refuge; God’s faithfulness is a protecting shield.
  5
  You shall not fear the terror of the night nor the arrow that flies by day,
  6
  Nor the pestilence that roams in darkness, nor the plague that ravages at noon.
  7
  Though a thousand fall at your side, ten thousand at your right hand, near you it shall not come.
  8
  You need simply watch; the punishment of the wicked you will see.
  9
  You have the LORD for your refuge; you have made the Most High your stronghold.
  10
  No evil shall befall you, no affliction come near your tent.
  11
  3 For God commands the angels to guard you in all your ways.
  12
  With their hands they shall support you, lest you strike your foot against a stone.
  13
  You shall tread upon the asp and the viper, trample the lion and the dragon.
  14
  Whoever clings to me I will deliver; whoever knows my name I will set on high.
  15
  All who call upon me I will answer; I will be with them in distress; I will deliver them and give them honor.
  16
  With length of days I will satisfy them and show them my saving power.

• 73 Jack Andrews // Aug 16, 2006 at 5:03 am

  You know this is the goofiest thing I’ve ever heard, the world is coming to an end, this is this this is that, please everyone get a life stop living up to those Bulls*&% comments you hear everyday, those people have nothing better to do but scare people off because they are SCARED. Here is what I think go get laid or drink cold bottle of beer no offense to those if drinking is against your religion, life will continue to go on and this planet will continue looking like a Star Wars in the future. Bless you all.

• 74 crazy world // Aug 16, 2006 at 6:12 pm

  Why can’t we all just get along? I If it is not your land stay off of it. If you don’t like what I have to say don’t listen to it. If you don’t beleave in what I do , then just don’t beleave in it, If you don’t like what a wear, don’t wear it. If you don’t like the way I talk, then don’t talk like it. If you don’t like the color of my skin then don’t look at it. If you don’t like the way I pray, then don’t pray like it. But in the name of god don’t kill me because of it ! If this happens on the 22nd I’m going to be pissed off !

• 75 Charles Wesley // Aug 16, 2006 at 11:28 pm

  The 22nd of August may be the day nuclear war will be
  started per the Iranian presidents threatened reply to the U.N.resolution.I believe he stated they would light up the skies above Israel.This would start at the least a limited exchange.The situation is not going away.I know young
  people are frustrated and feel cheated.The end will be at least 1007 years from now.But, the Great Tribulation could start very soon.
  As for the Islamic radicals they are driven by their own
  agenda found in the Koran. If you spend time investigating
  internet sites such as (GOG and MAGOG) and (DAJJAL)
  you might see we are all -reacting- to a bold new threat.
  The Bible predicted this over 2000 years ago.
  As far as us doom sayers, there are Christians that are looking foward to JESUS and his appearance and those
  who are occupied with the glitter of this world. If you read
  the Bible you see the events unfold before your eyes at an alarming rate.Now is maby not the time to party on .
  Wisdom is envaluable!

• 76 Rogue // Aug 17, 2006 at 2:27 am

  With all the BS going on in the world today, I wouldn’t be suprised if the world collapsed under the weight and imploded.

• 77 Justin // Aug 17, 2006 at 5:17 pm

  I think that Aug. 22, 2006 might be what sets up the rapture. Remember no man will know the time of Christ’s return. Those who are not Christians and are affraid of what we are saying you should be, because time is short for all of us. For God says that the hairs on our head are numbered. Will we be around to see the rapture? I hope so! Right now there are just too many signs that are showing us the time is near. The Arabs have a peace treaty with Israel, and the non-Arabs are setting plans in place to make war with Israel (Ez. 38-39). Also look who is behind Syria, and Iran, it is Russia the king of the north. Russia will use the Arab and non-Arab countries to go against Israel, then later Russia will destroy these countries. Most of the political leaders of the world think that Russia is weak, but I don’t. The tearing down of a wall in Berlin can not destroy the government of a powerful country as the USSAR. To think that over night that they (USSAR) finally saw the light of democracy, and capitalism is playing right into their hands. I saw a report eailer this week that Russia sold billions of dollars of weapons to Iran. They are also helping Iran build and enrich uranium. If they were so weak why would they do such things? I also find it ironic that Pres. Amawacko states that the Islamic messiah will fight the infidels for 7 years so he can destroy them, and have a thousand years of peaceful Islamic reign is interesting. I don’t know, but I have been thinking about how is the A-C going to explain those who were taken in the rapture. I think that he will say the infidels have been destroied. Just for thoughts. I know that the rapture will happen before he is put into power, because the fake peace treaty that he will sign will mark the start of the 7 year tribulation.
  I am just glad to have the grace of God through Jesus Christ with me. For if we are not in Him (Jesus Christ) then He is no in us. If we do not know Jesus then we can not know the true God. Those who know Allah do not know the true God, for there can be only 1 God for God is a jelious God.

  God bless, and keep Israel in your prayers!

• 78 Shana // Aug 17, 2006 at 9:07 pm

  Dosen’t this make you realize that the Bible is true in its entirety when it talks about the last days. Thsi stuff was prophisied over 2000 years ago and its happeningg today. I would do my best to get everything in my life lined up because who knows what will happen on August 22?

• 79 Leslie // Aug 17, 2006 at 9:51 pm

  Hello everyone. I was taught that the Anti-Christ will come back first professing to be the Messiah and performing miracles. Maybe this guy that is coming back is the Anti-Christ. The way I was taught also is that there will be no rapture. There is only one verse about it in Thess. If it is such an important thing, then why aren’t there more verses about it? I mean it is Jesus coming back! The bible says that he(Jesus) will return like a thief in the night but it can be interpreted different ways. I understand it to be that we have no idea when he(Jesus) will come, kind of unexpectedly. Others believe in the rapture, and I respect that. But if it isgong to be a silent occurrance why does it say that the sky will open up and trumpets will be blowing and thunder rolling? What is quiet about that? Do I have it all wrong? Thanks and God Bless!

• 80 Smitty // Aug 18, 2006 at 1:37 am

  So if this all happens, it happens. I have no fear as to the outcome. We all have to account for what we have done. If you aren’t happy with the way you have been living and are ashamed, why not have the heart to heart with Jesus and make it right. He has already paid the price for our sins, and that’s all of us. Besides no one gets to the Father except through the Son. Ask Jesus for forgiveness for your sins. Let it all out and I guarntee you will have a feeling of a heavy burden, the one you have been carrying all this time, being lifted from your shoulders.

  Be honest. No trying to make deals with God. Just the truth and you will truly be set free.

  This doesn’t mean you can go back to the way you were, otherwise you will be a hypocrate. There are plenty each day at the gates where St. Peter is the door man.

  It’s not too late, or at least until you actually pass on. And we all know that is just a heart beat away.

  As for myself, we made reservations for next April for my wife and my anniversary vacation. I know we will still be able to take it. It will be our 34th year together.

  Several times through the passing of time the world has thought the Anti-Christ whas alive, (I don’t understand why people use initials to describe the anti-Christ or Jesus or even God. Are you afraid?) and it hasn’t happened yet. So maybe this time it will and maybe it won’t. So put your faith in Jesus and God and it will be one less to worry about.

  Don’t sweat the small stuff, because it’s all small stuff…

• 81 Charles Wesley // Aug 18, 2006 at 2:54 am

  The 24th chapter of Matthew Is the recorded word of JESUS. This chapter is the Revelation of JESUS CHRIST outlining the events to come. At this time his walk here on earth was nearing its end. With this being said his every word was more precious every minute. He used this time to give us the very important information we (The Saved People)
  will need to navigate the perils of tribulation. Also to recognize the Antichrist and not be deceived by him.
  2nd Thessalonians chapter 2 verse 1–18 corrected the misconception of CHRIST immediate return.
  Jesus would not instruct us on this perilous time if we would not be here. Daniel chapter 11 verse37 gives a moral description of the Antichrist as well describes him as a Jew.
  The Islamic people also believe this.

  . In the 12th chapter of Daniel the reaping of the earth is explained for Christians with reference to the time of the appearance of the Antichrist . Daniel 12 is a continuation of Daniel 11 as he states (and at this time) does not look to be a
  lead off to a new chapter.
  Revelations Chapter 7 appears to be the preface for Revelations 14. Rev. 14 gives a chronological order of the
  coming of JESUS CHRIST in the clouds to (Reap the earth).Apply the clues given in Daniel chapter 12 verses 9 thru- 13 and Ezekiel 38 and 39 and the Lord returns just after mid tribulation. But that does not give the day nor the hour.
  Be ready . Also be ready to endure !
  God Bless You

• 82 669 // Aug 18, 2006 at 3:40 am

  I tried to translate the ?Arabic? posting August 14 but I can not find that particular dialect of Arabic.

  Also, here is a web site that translates the date from 1427 to August 22, 2006. Very strange.
  http://services.sakhr.com/econverter/

• 83 Aaron // Aug 18, 2006 at 12:18 pm

  If I were to make a guess as to whom the anti-christ is, I would have to say he is not alive yet, he may be born on Aug. 22, or he may be many people with the same goal (The U.N.), who knows? But when Jesus comes, he said he will come as a thief in the night, we will not know untill after the fact.

• 84 669 // Aug 18, 2006 at 2:23 pm

  The anti-Christ is here now and she has fooled everyone.

• 85 Phil // Aug 18, 2006 at 2:38 pm

  Sucks. End of the world on my birthday.

• 86 Charles Wesley // Aug 19, 2006 at 1:23 am

  Fret not Phil
  The world will go on although things will be changing soon.
  As the Middle East heats up oil supplies will be interrupted and our economy will be in the can and Christian supporters
  of Israel will be scorned , but life will go on. At least for a while.
  What I am concerned about is the description of The Great City of Babylon best described in Revelations chapter 18.
  Babylon does not exist today . America today is the richest country in the world. We use 60% of the worlds resources. Merchants needs our appetite for their income all over the world. If I am right that would explain why Russia remains in Israel for 42 months.
  Seek Jesus now and live long.

• 87 669 // Aug 19, 2006 at 3:28 am

  The 22nd will be here in 4 days. Let’s hope N. Korea does not detonate a nuclear device to divert our attention away from Iran. I am not superstitious or jaded or cynical or a conspiracy theorist. I am pragmatic, observant, cognizant of what is happening around the world. We all need to understand that what we will face soon is the ultimate religious battle. It will be the christians and jewish against the muslims and islamists. It is unfortunate that it will come to this because I beleive all of the religions would not want what will surely happen.

  I am personally a agnostic, but that does’nt matter. What matters is that group think can be tremendously powerful. Religion is used around the world as an excuse for dubious bahavior. The current president of Iran appears to be a psychotic dellusional. Timing has caused us all a major dilemma. More specifically, this dangerous person has surfaced when the United States and Israel are at thier weakest points. We are incapable of the severe response that is necessary to prevent the impending disaster.

  Envy and jealousy are two of the most ugly human emotions. Consequently, none of the other constiuent nations will step in and protect us. Certainly, they will just wait in the wings and watch the fall out.

  Jesus wont’ help this situation. we are going to have to accept the fact that our paradigms of life are going to be challanged and changed forever. Our liberal lifestyles of blending all cultures and religions will cease. Let’s face it we are out numbered 10 to 1. If it comes down to a war of attrition the toll will be biblical in proportion.

  Conclusion: Do whatever you feel will help; pray, plan, but keep your eyes open.

• 88 Charles Wesley // Aug 19, 2006 at 7:22 am

  I personally find it hard to believe that man and earth happened by chance , natural selection, evolution or mutation.
  That this took place on rock formed by an explosion and happened to fall in orbit around a fire ball with a moon that is of sufficient size to cause tides and set in order our ecological system. From where did this matter from which this big bang come from? How did it get there?Maybe if Carl Sagan threw a couple of billion years in like rolling dice that might convince a few. Carbon dating has a maximum limit of 60000 years and has not been proven to be accurate at all. How can such a controversial method be stated as fact.
  The vanity of man would rather think anything but God would one day hold him responsible for his actions. We all tell ourselves that we will not face the consequences of our actions.
  On the other hand we have a manual that is over 2000 years old that is foretelling the literal sequence of specific events
  that caused you to visit this site to start with. I believe the Koran also points out a parallel reality to the Bible. God would have to give the muslims their instructions in such a way after all they would not read or subscribe to the Jewish text.
  Check out (Gog and magog) and (dajjal) -sites.
  I believe the Bible provides a more substantial proof of creation ,even though science may have had some success at back engineering his work.

  Bieng a Christian is not easy .It requires a great deal of strength because the flesh will betray you. Jesus saves.

• 89 Smitty // Aug 19, 2006 at 2:33 pm

  Mr Wesley.

  I agree with you 100%

  Since the early days of Christians, the world has always been a road block. Those earliest were scorned served as lunch for lions in Rome as entertainment and caused many, even today to be imprisoned and killed for their beliefs in Christ. Same story just a different day.

  It’s OK to be of some other religion but Jewish or Christian. We are ridiculed by liberals and non believers, made jokes by not so funny comics in stand up. It’s the fault of Christians and Jews for all the worlds wrongs. The islamic fannatics say that the world would be a better place if Jews and Christians were exterminated, yet if you are islamic and aren’t sheite, your fate is the same. Don’t convert to the dark side of islam and you are dead.

  Friends satan is very much alive and well and is planning on taking as many down with him when this is over. He lost once before when he was Micheal the Arch-Angel. What an ego he must have had to believe he could be God. So he pick up on Ishmale as sore losers for not finding favor with God and has been seething with hate and rage ever since.

  The Bible states we must wear the armour of God. The time has always been near when Jesus will return. Remember in the ultimate scheme of things a day to God is like a thousand years, so in reality it’s about mid morning of the third day since Jesus left us. He should be back in a week or two.

  The Islamic faith yet strong has yet to meet a good Southern Baptist at a pork BBQ cookoff while watching Nascar on Sunday. We have some very strong believing Christians all over. There are millions of people here in the United States to those who want to take away our way of life, and I’m not talking about those snot nosed whinnie elitest liberals, but the real people of this country who are the backbone of this GREAT country.

  Folks the time to take a stand is soon at hand, so keep your faith in Jesus. Stand tall and remember the song “ONWARD CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS”.

  May God and Jesus continue to be with us as a people in faith, and watch over us. Amen

• 90 Charles Wesley // Aug 19, 2006 at 5:24 pm

  This site has been a real blessing to me soon it will be out dated . Where might we meet on line to talk after the 22nd?

• 91 Smitty // Aug 20, 2006 at 1:27 am

  Psalm 23- A Psalm of David

  The Lord is my shepard, I shall not want; he makes me lie down in green pastures.

  He leads me beside still waters, he restores my soul.

  He leads me in paths of righteousness for his name’s sake.

  Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death,
  I fear no evil; for thou art with me;
  thy rod and thy staff, they comfort me.

  Thou preparest a tablr before me in the presence of ny enemies;
  thou anointest my head with oil,
  my cup overflows.

  Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life;
  and I shall dwell in the house of the Lord for ever.

  This my friends, says it all.
  As it was said during the 1960’s- Keep the Faith, baby…

  It has been written, thousands of years ago. Solid as a rock then, Solid as a rock now…

• 92 Dakota darlin' // Aug 20, 2006 at 6:32 am

  Hey, Smitty, 669, and others…Charles Wesley is right! We really should have a post-August 22nd place to discuss things (should we be around to do so!). Does anyone have a favorite discussion site you’d like to suggest or should we pick one of the other discussion areas in this site (like any of the ones listed on the right hand side of the screen) — some of them have very recent comments.
  PS: hope all of you believers are praying for the precious people who comment on this site.

• 93 Jayna Dinnyes // Aug 20, 2006 at 7:22 am

  Shalom, meaning peace in Hebrew! Yes, it is good to discuss these matters. When we see these things happenning, Scripture states “to look up and know that your redemption draws near.”
  The day before yesterday while riding in a car on business I noticed a very large cloud in the blue sky looking just like the mushroom cloud after a nuclear bomb. Is this one of those signs in the heavens?
  Sadly, Scripture does not teach a pre or mid trib rapture of the saints. This heresy was brought in to negate teaching about the 7th Day Sabbath and the sealing of the saints (Revelation 14) which preserves them through “The Time of Trouble”.
  Those who are “sealed” with the Names of Yahweh and Yahshua survive these prophetic events when they do happen.
  Some believe the evil one (I do not honor him with any of his names that have never been changed, only multiplied!) will appear as “J-s C-t”. I really doubt that he will use the Name of Yahshua the Messiah, but he might. The Spirit of Yahweh gives us understanding. Believe in Yahweh and have salvation through the blood of His Son Yahshua and you will be saved! This is the message and the faith that was once delivered to the saints.! HalleluYah!

  The Faith of Yahshua
  Janos and Jayna Dinnyes
  P.O. Box 9932
  Fountain Valley, CA 92728

• 94 icebear // Aug 21, 2006 at 6:14 pm

  Its the 21st in USA , has there been any news of the crazy man Ahmadinejad stirring?

  Just wondering, i havn’t heard anything new myself.

• 95 669 // Aug 21, 2006 at 8:16 pm

  President Ima-startin-a-jihad test fired surface to surface missles yesterday. To add insult to injury Kim Jong Il may be preparing for an underground nuclear test. If you don’t own one yet, it may be prudent to buy a hand held Geiger counter or Dosimeter.

• 96 Dakota darlin' // Aug 21, 2006 at 10:21 pm

  I heard late last night that Israeli intelligence informed Turkey that loaded (I guess they mean armed?) Iranian jets were about to enter it’s airspace. Shortly after Turkey acknowledged, the Iranian jets turned back. They returned later but then flying in routine patterns … and unloaded. They may have been testing Israel’s ability to discern and intercept or it could have been just a scare tactic. I wonder if they would actually do anything now because I would hope that we and Israel would be prepared. Hey…if this section shuts down after the 22nd, I’m going to stay on this site but go over to the section called “You cannot bribe the ‘axis of evil’ (see upper right-hand corner of page) if anyone cares to join me…

• 97 Armageddon Cocktail Hour » Liveblogging August 22, Part 1 // Aug 21, 2006 at 10:32 pm

  […] It’s also known as 27 Rajab and 31 Mordad, depending upon your calendar. Around the blogoshpere and elsewhere, various interpretations of the significance of August 22 have been offered. As I’ve reported, Farid Ghadry, the president of the Reform Party of Syria says that the Iranians have chosen August 22 for the date of their response because it is “the Night of the Sira’a and Miira’aj, the night Prophet Mohammed (saas) ascended to heaven from the Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem on a Bourak (Half animal, half man), while a great light lit-up the night sky, and visited Heaven and Hell also Beit al-Saada and Beit al-Shaqaa (House of Happiness and House of Misery) and then descended back to Mecca.” The idea has been seconded by Muslim historian Bernard Lewis. Zionist.com states that August 22 also corresponds “with the Islamic date of Rajab 28, the day Saladin conquered and entered Jerusalem,” and that says that there is a rumor that Ahmadinejad believes that on August 22, 2006, “the so-called ‘hidden’ Imam Mahdi who Allah has miraculously kept alive since his disappearance in 874 AD. . . . will return . . . and usher in an era of (Islamic) justice.” And I, myself, have offered that among Shi’ite Muslims, the date also corresponds with the date upon which Muhammad began his prophetic mission. […]

• 98 Charles Wesley // Aug 21, 2006 at 10:48 pm

  People there are many sites on Zionist . com;
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• 99 Charles Wesley // Sep 9, 2006 at 2:13 am

  What about September 11 th 2006

• 100 Jayna Dinnyes // Oct 8, 2006 at 3:10 am

  Dear Ones on Yahweh’s green earth! 8-22 has passed but we are about to begin Yahweh’s Thanksgiving Days (8 in all!) known as The Feast of Tabernacles (Hebrew Succoth). For many years I have not written the pagan names of the month (in anything) and have not celebrated the Christian holidays that have all come from ancient pagan Babylon. This proves a REAL blessing! Yahshua came and gave His life for everyone. For several hundred years (possibly many) those alive knew this truth. Somehow, over the last 2000 years our world lost Him, actually replaced Him with the names of pagan deities and their holidays. The number 666 in the Greek is a number as well as a name. That name is the chief deity of Christianity, J-s C-t. If you really care about believing the truth, please prove this to yourself! The number 666 in the Greek reads as Christos Zeus. The number (letter) in Greek for Christos is called a hex as in Xmas. The name of the image (idol) of the Beast (power) is “J-s C-t”.I have been teaching this truth since the 1970’s. This web site has the Greek translation :
  www.thedcl.org/bible/diaglott-nt/ed-revelation.pdf
  after clicking this page, click on page 31 on the left. This page has the actual Greek and English side by side for Revelation 13:18.
  Do not be afraid to leave this “hex” (evil spell) of the evil one! Be sealed with the True Names of Yahweh and His Son Yahshua, Revelation 14:1 He came in His Father’s Name, John 5:41.
  Their are many web sites about these Names. One of them is:
  www.remnantofyhwh.com
  Prove everything through prayerful Bible study!
  Blessings as you believe the truth!

• 101 Matthew M Perry // Jan 19, 2007 at 1:17 pm

  1. Nothing happened

  2. Many of you seem to know only strange second hand caricatures of scientific theory.

  3. You have all engaged in a sort of self-reinforcing social madness.

  4. Prophetic texts possess such plasticity that they have been reinterpreted and applied to every age in our common history.

  5. One proves nothing through the study of scriptural texts because one must first interpret the text. Since textual interpretation is, at least in part, a subjective experience you will only produce either a bickering community of theories and counter theories or a united self-delusion of certainty based in agenda and expectations that were and ever are external to the text being studied.

  6. These prophecies you extract, if they become culturally salient, can be self-fulfilling. If you were to have everyone expecting conflict on a certain date it may very well occur that someone, out of this expectation, starts a violent action, and, granted their expectations of drastic conflict, others would overreact on a grand scale causing the mass violence predicted. The problem? The religious consequences that we supposed to come after the fulfillment of this prophecy never come - men loose faith, reinvent a new faith, or fracture existing faith out of this failure setting up for new self-fulfilling expectations/failures.

• 102 Charles // May 17, 2007 at 3:04 am

  Matt , look around you and read the bible . Your arrogance will defeat you . You must have faith in God .
  Ignorance is a form of denial not necessarily stupidity . You seem to be willfully ignoring prophesy although at this time that is not a smart thing to do . Key prophesy to our times (end times) are in the bible ,both Old and New Testament . Seek and you will find , seek not to find and you will not . Faith in the Lord is not compulsory .

• 103 Matthew M Perry // May 20, 2007 at 4:53 am

  Faith in god not faith in puzzle builders, Charles. The interpretation of prophecy is a work done by men in every age. Gathering together to worship at the feet of every age’s new doom-sayer is idolatry not faith.

  I ask: Does god move the age and end of the world whether or not we properly identify the time?

  Yes?

  Good, then abandon the enterprise for you ‘know neither the day nor hour’.

  My problem is with this ludicrous business of date calling, puzzle building, and sign seeking. Every event may be interpreted as a fulfillment of prophecy because very prophecy is cryptic, only loosely specific, and textually flexible. All that is bad may be called anti Christ, the wrath of god, or the act of Satan.

  In this idol worship, the multitude here will find themselves not in paradise, but rather in the clutches of a new tyrannical nationalism rising up to do “god’s work” through the will of man. Nothing could be more satanic. I fear we will find that America did not defeat totalitarianism- she merely delayed it.

• 104 Charles // May 21, 2007 at 5:54 am

  Matthew , again if you look at the prophesy that was laid out in the Bible from the time of Abraham you will see that the events point to the end soon . I agree that through the ages people saw many horrendous events that made them think that they were in the Great Tribulation . The fact is until Israel became a nation (the most note significant end time event ) the count down to the return of Christ had not begun . The mark of the Beast could not have been implemented with any success of enforcement until the last few years and still progressing to completion . The Dome of the Rock still stands in the way of the Temple of God reconstruction . This is necessary for the Antichrist to sit literally in the seat of God as God .
  Even a blind man can see that the situation in the middle-East is set for the assault on Israel spoken of by Ezekiel .
  The world will not end when the Great Tribulation starts . It will go on for another 1007 years ,ie. 7years Trib. and Thousand Year Reign. I guess most young people are bothered by the tremendous calamities that will affect their lives . But better to be right with the Lord and wise than be punished. If you feel so secure in your opinion maybe you should type in the site EMP pulse weapon and what Iran wants to do to America . That will put a wrinkle in your jeans . Or maybe Dajjal , Digital Angel or Sam Cohen the inventor of the Neutron bomb , or World Net Daily archives where Muslims are warned to leave America before the next attack (WMD) . Funny that that didn’t make our front page news .
  Life has no guarantees , our world could end for anyone of us at any time . Seek the Lord , time is a wasting

• 105 Joyce // May 21, 2007 at 10:38 pm

  Matthew,
  If you’re a Christian, then the Bible is your reference as to how you should live your life, and also what will be happening in the end times at the return of Christ. And it is true that we do not know the exact day or the hour, but God does give us in the Bible, a timetable of these events. And we are to be diligent and watchful for the events of the end times, and the return of our Lord Jesus Christ. We are not to be caught unaware. And don’t be fooled into thinking that just because nothing happened on Aug.22, that nothing will be happening. If you believe that, then you are in for a rude awakening. Because God has said that all these things must come to pass. And if He says it will happen, then you better believe it, because God does not lie. And if you are not ready for the Lord’s return, then I pray that you will except Jesus as your Lord and Savior before it is too late. Because whether you want to believe it, or not, the return of the Lord is at hand.

• 106 Matthew M Perry // May 26, 2007 at 10:13 am

  I make no claim to disbelieve or believe the validity of any prophecy until the sun has finally set and the owl of Minerva has spread its wings.

  You both, of course, seem to make the claim that the full and clear understanding of end-times biblical prophecy is necessary for salvation. This is, without any ado, utterly false- else every Christian in the history of man save, perhaps, Christ himself (and, even here, I reserve judgment) is surely damned.

  Your “seat of god” has been many things in many ages (the papal see, for instance) and the necessity of “literality” in prophetic interpretation is your banal and ill-delineated doctrinal assertion (and an unnuanced and inconsistent assertion it is)- it was not seen in Christ (else the Jews may be more satisfied with Christ today and in their day) and I see no reason to expect it now. Even more so with the “anti-Christ” (who has, many times, been the papal see or else Islam or else paganism or else scientism or else Protestantism- insert your favorite Christian opponent of every age).

  “Israel” (whatever may where her mask, but I speak of the current wearer of that mask- the region of Judea) has been set for conflict the entirety of her existence as a region- that you have now drawn on the map her markers as a modern state does not confer upon her a new magic power of prominence (save, of course, in your own modern minds- so divorced from the ancient notions of a peoples and a nation that the international declaration of a state seems relevant).

  As for you, Charles, you seem to believe that you know my mind better than I myself know my mind- such a sure layman you are, and it is this surety that I fear in you new revolutionaries of prophetic literature. You seem so sure of yourselves that you would do wretched things to uphold yourselves. The attempt to make oneself right is the first symptom of a vicious nationalism which is itself the first symptom of a coming totalitarianism. I do take solace in the fact of the American intolerance of extended unproductive theorizing, but I fear the product of even a short-term “Christian” nationalism in this republic, and if anyone is to be the seeds of such nationalism, it will not be the left or the traditional conservatives. It will come from those who have fully abandoned humility as a virtue. Look for those amongst those who “just know.”

  A true critique of your doctrines would require a willing participation in a delving into this doctrine of “literalism” to which you now subscribe- by which, of course, you mean the dissection of an English-translated concept divorced from historical, authorial, and textual context by way of “common sense” (whatever that means) and forced manipulation of both ill-understood world events and the so filtered textual concepts. Of course, since none of you- you mere parrots -are capable of assenting to your own doctrine you are equally incapable of a true examination of its root assumptions. The heard always move

• 107 Joyce // May 26, 2007 at 6:59 pm

  The only way to obtain salvation is through the cleansing blood of Jesus Christ, and the understanding of the end times is what a faithful Christian should have the knowledge of.

• 108 Charles // May 26, 2007 at 7:15 pm

  Matt,
  Obviously you are an intelligent man . Look around you and observe what the world is saying . Every evidence has been proved out that a major world calamity is on the horizon . Now look at Israel and how the chess board is lined up with the prophesy written about the end of years (Time of the Gentiles) . Look at the EMP weapon that Iran wishes to deploy on the North American Continent . Russia aligned with the Islamic nations to come against Israel ,the Digital Angel ( probable Mark of the BEAST ) , Dajjel . The Bible brings all of this to bare at the end times . One would have to ignore the Bible evidence not to see the correlation between the world events today and prophesy . When you speak of these things at least take the time to educate your self fully on the topic .

• 109 Matthew M Perry // May 26, 2007 at 10:34 pm

  Thank you, dear Joyce. Would you care to write some other trivialities for me such as “the bible is the source of my information” or “Christ is the son of god”? I so obviously know the doctrine- it is the core and most obvious doctrine of the faith. Do you think you do some great service to me by repeating it as if by thousands of hours of research you have ripped it anew from the scriptures?

  It is a plain lie to say that faithful Christians should have an understanding of the end times if by understanding you mean a clear and present interpretation that places the end times here and now on earth as a series of empirical and easily confirmable events. The words of the prophets are cryptic for a reason; they do not yield to being understood clearly. One may attain a certain amount of clarity of prophecy in any time, and it has always been prophecy that has led Christians to be revolutionaries, but Christian revolutions are not always the greatest of events. Their aims are often fervently mistaken; men often confuse their own surety for the omniscience of god and it is this that is dangerous in every age.

  “Every evidence has been proved out that a major world calamity is on the horizon.”

  -So the cold war and the attitude born out of her conditioned you, Charles. Constructed chessboards (and often constructed chess pieces- it depends on the political administration of the time) do not yield accurate predictions.

  When one stands toward the world as if she is a disastrous monster she yields herself as if she is a disastrous monster. Even if she does not one is often content to make up stories to make her so. If these EMPs are as destructive as this evangelical propaganda (and The Matrix) insists where are ours? Why does their appearance not coincide with our intelligence assessment about Iran and her nuclear capacity? Why does only WorldNet and the CBN (and there are some reputable news outlets) push this story? It is a two-year-old lie… I mean story. Why has our president failed to notify us? How did Iran manage such a construction in the first place? Why would they even bother with releasing an EMP when they could release a conventional nuclear bomb with much greater ease? How would they possibly collapse our entire communication system with one such bomb? No bomb yet constructed- let alone an EMP -is capable of destroying any place larger than a very large city on its own. What, finally would such a story have to do with biblical prophecy, which, I am sorry to tell you, has within it no obvious place for the United States. I would address your other pseudo-disasters but you would only unleash a flurry of new ones in the typical attempt to bury your audience in fear.

• 110 Matthew M Perry // May 26, 2007 at 10:34 pm

  …
  No, Charles, my problem is not the lack of education; my problem is a great plethora of education that has warned me to be cautious of every age’s doom-sayers. I have never failed to observe events, but it is always bad observation to try to force them into convenient

• 111 Matthew M Perry // May 26, 2007 at 10:35 pm

  …molds.

• 112 Charles // May 27, 2007 at 2:52 am

  Again , you have not studied what you are talking about . Your education came from a secular source that would bend the truth to deny Christ and the creation . You should work for the ACLU , they are not ashamed to attack the only legitimate religion and leave the (illegitimate ) religion of Islam being forced on 7th graders in California public schools alone .
  The EMP pulse weapon will knock out the entire continent communications , power grid , gas pumps , water sources , your car ,phone ect . There will be no grocery stores ,pharmacies ,police fire , radio ,TV , Internet, jobs , semi tractor trailer traffic . nor would there be machines to build new electronic hardware and the dollar will be trash for sure so no body else in the world willing to resupply us . With one 1.3 Meg. bomb 600 miles above Nebraska we could be taken back to the stone ages . On foot , out of the most precious commodity (water) little food, desperate people killing to stay alive , no communications and no answers . And also the massive confusion and consequences of initiating an all out nuclear response and on who? The death of a super power . Heck yea ! One non polluting bomb that may not bring an all out response because it didn’t actually kill anyone directly .
  Iran is smart enough to see that and the ones that supply them the bomb Russia . Oh by the way you should read Sam Cohen’s thoughts ,he invented the Neutron bomb . There are accounts that small nukes have been brought into America as well as his thoughts of who controls the A-bombs that the Russians have over here . Stark reality .

• 113 Joyce // May 27, 2007 at 4:53 am

  Matthew,
  I guess, that I need to explain the reason for my comment to you in more simpler terms. The reason that I made my comment, is because of the comment that you made saying, “You both, of course, seem to make the claim that the full and clear understanding of end-times biblical prophesy is necessary for salvation.” So all I was trying to do is explain to you, that your comment about me claiming any such thing is incorrect. And I was just trying to make it clear to you, about my beliefs on obtaining salvation. And I don’t understand why you would say, that it’s a lie for faithful Christians, to have an understanding about the end times. That is part of the responsibilty of a Christian, to read and to discern the meaning of the Bible. Someone who is not a Christian, of course would not be able to understand that. Anyway I hope now, that you understand the reason I made the comment about obtaining salvation, and that it was just in response to the incorrect comment of yours.

• 114 Joyce // May 27, 2007 at 5:29 am

  So much for your plethora of education.

• 115 Charles // May 27, 2007 at 6:47 pm

  Garbage in garbage out ! Secular humanism is garbage . If you wait until you can identify Christ and the verifiable fulfilment of the prophesy you will be seeing from the wrong place . It will be too late .
  Also God said he would send a strong delusion so that the uncommitted will remain so .

• 116 Jayna Dinnyes // Jul 22, 2007 at 6:34 am

  Shalom! (Hebrew word for peace.) Just cannot let this thread end on such a sour note. No one can know the hour of Yahshua’s return because during the ancient Jewish wedding only the bridegroom’s father knew when his son would return to wed his bride and bring her to his father’s house. The virgins were to be ready with lighted lamps to go in with him to the wedding. Only the wise virgins had enough oil for their lamps ~ but they all slumbered and slept. Suddenly a cry is heard, “The Bridegroom is coming! Go out to meet Him!” All awoke but the lamps of the foolish maids had gone out so they asked the wise for some oil. The wise ones told them that they would not have enough so they must go out and buy their own oil. When they were gone ~ the Bridegroom came and the wise went in with Him to the wedding. The door was shut.
  Those awaiting His Second Coming are the virgin class. The wise virgins have the “oil”. The oil is His Name Yahshua (Song of Solomon 1:3). The foolish do not and are content with their pagan names of deity and belief. In a very real sense we are all slumbering. However, if we remain alive, one of these days we will all awake to the certainty that Yahshua is coming. Will we have the oil of His Name? How can we really sing the praise “HalleluYah” if we do not honor the Almighty with His Name Yahweh? (Revelation 19:1) Blessings if you choose to do so!
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